JDM intake spacer cost?
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Originally posted by bodawg
Even if G-11 were used for this application, which is overkill as far as material specification, the cost per square foot is ~$45. Lower grades would be even less. And at least three (probably four) parts could be produced from one square foot. And since it is available in 3'x4' sheets, the nesting possibilities put the yield even higher per square foot. The bolt spacers could be produced from 3/4" diameter solid rod at a cost of ~$10 a foot, yielding probably 20 parts per foot, after subtracting cutting losses. This price could be even less, if phenolic tubing is used, where the per foot cost would be ~$7 (and less labor cost).
End of the day, $89 provides plenty of room for machining cost and profit.
The key benefit of this mod is the straightening of airflow into the blower. Any heat insulation is purely secondary, as the blower heats the air far more than anything else in the system, and we are still limited by the intercooler output temperature, which I don't see being affected by a slight drop in blower intake temp. Not to mention the heat the blower produces still has to be dissapated. With the possible route of heat dissipation the upper intake plenum provides removed, the heat will just move into other components of the motor (like into the intercooler).
Even if G-11 were used for this application, which is overkill as far as material specification, the cost per square foot is ~$45. Lower grades would be even less. And at least three (probably four) parts could be produced from one square foot. And since it is available in 3'x4' sheets, the nesting possibilities put the yield even higher per square foot. The bolt spacers could be produced from 3/4" diameter solid rod at a cost of ~$10 a foot, yielding probably 20 parts per foot, after subtracting cutting losses. This price could be even less, if phenolic tubing is used, where the per foot cost would be ~$7 (and less labor cost).
End of the day, $89 provides plenty of room for machining cost and profit.The key benefit of this mod is the straightening of airflow into the blower. Any heat insulation is purely secondary, as the blower heats the air far more than anything else in the system, and we are still limited by the intercooler output temperature, which I don't see being affected by a slight drop in blower intake temp. Not to mention the heat the blower produces still has to be dissapated. With the possible route of heat dissipation the upper intake plenum provides removed, the heat will just move into other components of the motor (like into the intercooler).
There is a more important place to put that spacer. I will make some phone calls and see what i can do. Would you pay $89 for a lower blower spacer? that actually does some good? I couldnt even imagine it being over $70 with shipping and bolts...
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Originally posted by Flying ****
It doesnt matter whether the intake spacer can be used to " straighten out " the airflow. Its still get rammed in there top entry style and its moot.
There is a more important place to put that spacer. I will make some phone calls and see what i can do. Would you pay $89 for a lower blower spacer? that actually does some good? I couldnt even imagine it being over $70 with shipping and bolts...
It doesnt matter whether the intake spacer can be used to " straighten out " the airflow. Its still get rammed in there top entry style and its moot.
There is a more important place to put that spacer. I will make some phone calls and see what i can do. Would you pay $89 for a lower blower spacer? that actually does some good? I couldnt even imagine it being over $70 with shipping and bolts...
, but BadasL tested the upper spacer and reported more airflow...
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Im working out the details now. I already have a " plate " to use for the machining.
However, how many of the 99/00 guys have the 01/02 upgrade? I would have to do 2 different plates because of this then.
However, how many of the 99/00 guys have the 01/02 upgrade? I would have to do 2 different plates because of this then.
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No Paul raped everyone in the mustang community with an overpriced tach adapter, 99/up. Everything he would sell for the Mod motors from there on out, was overpriced by at least $250-$800 depending on what is was. Hell, go look at what he sells reg lightning parts for and you will laugh.
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From: PDX
Originally posted by Flying ****
It doesnt matter whether the intake spacer can be used to " straighten out " the airflow. Its still get rammed in there top entry style and its moot.
There is a more important place to put that spacer. I will make some phone calls and see what i can do. Would you pay $89 for a lower blower spacer? that actually does some good? I couldnt even imagine it being over $70 with shipping and bolts...
It doesnt matter whether the intake spacer can be used to " straighten out " the airflow. Its still get rammed in there top entry style and its moot.
There is a more important place to put that spacer. I will make some phone calls and see what i can do. Would you pay $89 for a lower blower spacer? that actually does some good? I couldnt even imagine it being over $70 with shipping and bolts...
Seriously though, increasing the radius of the bend going into the blower should increase flow, just like porting the upper plenum increases flow. Whether the rotors bat the air around once it gets there is the moot point, as it happens regardless of what goes on before them. Increasing the efficiency of getting the air to the rotors should still yield gains.
$70 for a lower blower spacer sounds like a better price than the upper plenum spacer. What material are we talking. . . G-10?
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Since when did the tuners give us the option to come up with the price?? Thats like saying $3 is too much for a gallon of milk.You dont like it,Go buy a cow and milk it yourself.Tuners set prices,Not public.............Dont like it,Dont buy it......
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can I have a tracking number?
can I have a tracking number?
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From: PDX
Originally posted by Lightningquick
Since when did the tuners give us the option to come up with the price?? Thats like saying $3 is too much for a gallon of milk.You dont like it,Go buy a cow and milk it yourself.Tuners set prices,Not public.............Dont like it,Dont buy it......
Since when did the tuners give us the option to come up with the price?? Thats like saying $3 is too much for a gallon of milk.You dont like it,Go buy a cow and milk it yourself.Tuners set prices,Not public.............Dont like it,Dont buy it......
I always thought the point of message boards was to share information. Not just a way to find a tuner to buy parts from.
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From: ct
Originally posted by Flying ****
No details on materials. Working it out and ill have information soon enough.
No details on materials. Working it out and ill have information soon enough.