Killed a Firebird Ram Air - but police won....
Originally posted by red00Lightning
Well, the circumstances of the two incidents were completely different. The clip you posted happened during rush hour traffic.
While I don't agree with what he did, you need to compare apples to apples.
--wes
Well, the circumstances of the two incidents were completely different. The clip you posted happened during rush hour traffic.
While I don't agree with what he did, you need to compare apples to apples.
--wes
Originally posted by MiamiWhiteSVT-L
I'm pretty sure he meant a Roush Mustang...........not a Roush F-150?? Because regardless of what type of truck you have, OD off, and going 140mph..........NOPE.............and still had a lot left......uh, NOPE!!
Roush Stang.............YES!!!! I believe the whole story and then some.....................Would love to see that beast.
JC
I'm pretty sure he meant a Roush Mustang...........not a Roush F-150?? Because regardless of what type of truck you have, OD off, and going 140mph..........NOPE.............and still had a lot left......uh, NOPE!!
Roush Stang.............YES!!!! I believe the whole story and then some.....................Would love to see that beast.
JC
Having mopped up my share of accidents, I have a few thoughts on this.
Everybody (and I do mean everybody) who has NOT been involved in a race-related accident will say with total certainty that they race only when sober, only when there are no other cars around, and have raced professionally for many years.........and never had an accident (yet)
Professional drivers running on closed tracks with other professionals have accidents every day, and professional drivers get killed every day, so I don't think being a professional has much to do with it.
All I know is that when I go out on the freeway (or any street) with my family, I don't want to be a victim of some joker who thinks he can avoid a collision at 100 mph................if Mark Martin can't do it, don't think you can either. It's the unexpected that causes the accident, and all of your good intentions go out the window when another driver turns in front of you, pulls out in front of you or a dog runs in front of you, etc. etc. etc.
Once you have to take evasive action to avoid a collision, logic and sober thoughts go out the window. Drivers lock up brakes, swerve and plow into anything and everything in their way ala NASCAR...........the dynamics of an auto collision are messy and unpredictable, other than the fact that they happen every day, despite the fact the participants are sober, well intentioned professional drivers.
Just my 2 cents worth.............and yes, sometimes I do it too, but only when I'm sober and I am (was) a certified EVOC trainer for many years with literally 100's of hours spent behind the wheel chasing others, and being chased.
Everybody (and I do mean everybody) who has NOT been involved in a race-related accident will say with total certainty that they race only when sober, only when there are no other cars around, and have raced professionally for many years.........and never had an accident (yet)
Professional drivers running on closed tracks with other professionals have accidents every day, and professional drivers get killed every day, so I don't think being a professional has much to do with it.
All I know is that when I go out on the freeway (or any street) with my family, I don't want to be a victim of some joker who thinks he can avoid a collision at 100 mph................if Mark Martin can't do it, don't think you can either. It's the unexpected that causes the accident, and all of your good intentions go out the window when another driver turns in front of you, pulls out in front of you or a dog runs in front of you, etc. etc. etc.
Once you have to take evasive action to avoid a collision, logic and sober thoughts go out the window. Drivers lock up brakes, swerve and plow into anything and everything in their way ala NASCAR...........the dynamics of an auto collision are messy and unpredictable, other than the fact that they happen every day, despite the fact the participants are sober, well intentioned professional drivers.
Just my 2 cents worth.............and yes, sometimes I do it too, but only when I'm sober and I am (was) a certified EVOC trainer for many years with literally 100's of hours spent behind the wheel chasing others, and being chased.
Originally posted by mswaim
Having mopped up my share of accidents, I have a few thoughts on this.
Everybody (and I do mean everybody) who has NOT been involved in a race-related accident will say with total certainty that they race only when sober, only when there are no other cars around, and have raced professionally for many years.........and never had an accident (yet)
Professional drivers running on closed tracks with other professionals have accidents every day, and professional drivers get killed every day, so I don't think being a professional has much to do with it.
All I know is that when I go out on the freeway (or any street) with my family, I don't want to be a victim of some joker who thinks he can avoid a collision at 100 mph................if Mark Martin can't do it, don't think you can either. It's the unexpected that causes the accident, and all of your good intentions go out the window when another driver turns in front of you, pulls out in front of you or a dog runs in front of you, etc. etc. etc.
Once you have to take evasive action to avoid a collision, logic and sober thoughts go out the window. Drivers lock up brakes, swerve and plow into anything and everything in their way ala NASCAR...........the dynamics of an auto collision are messy and unpredictable, other than the fact that they happen every day, despite the fact the participants are sober, well intentioned professional drivers.
Just my 2 cents worth.............and yes, sometimes I do it too, but only when I'm sober and I am (was) a certified EVOC trainer for many years with literally 100's of hours spent behind the wheel chasing others, and being chased.
Having mopped up my share of accidents, I have a few thoughts on this.
Everybody (and I do mean everybody) who has NOT been involved in a race-related accident will say with total certainty that they race only when sober, only when there are no other cars around, and have raced professionally for many years.........and never had an accident (yet)
Professional drivers running on closed tracks with other professionals have accidents every day, and professional drivers get killed every day, so I don't think being a professional has much to do with it.
All I know is that when I go out on the freeway (or any street) with my family, I don't want to be a victim of some joker who thinks he can avoid a collision at 100 mph................if Mark Martin can't do it, don't think you can either. It's the unexpected that causes the accident, and all of your good intentions go out the window when another driver turns in front of you, pulls out in front of you or a dog runs in front of you, etc. etc. etc.
Once you have to take evasive action to avoid a collision, logic and sober thoughts go out the window. Drivers lock up brakes, swerve and plow into anything and everything in their way ala NASCAR...........the dynamics of an auto collision are messy and unpredictable, other than the fact that they happen every day, despite the fact the participants are sober, well intentioned professional drivers.
Just my 2 cents worth.............and yes, sometimes I do it too, but only when I'm sober and I am (was) a certified EVOC trainer for many years with literally 100's of hours spent behind the wheel chasing others, and being chased.
Clint Eastwood
As Clint once said "A man's got to know his limitations"! I am much more fearfull of soccer mom vans, SUV blondes on the cell and silly *** teenage hotties doing 90mph in their Kia's .San Diego city council just passed street racing legislation yesterday and it is scary. Second time caught racing and or over 100mph your ride will be confiscated and sold off with all monies to pay off outstanding loans with the rest spread around to law enforcment, that is scary! This is a result of 16 fatalities last year. I always wonder if there is any data out there comparing my reaction times(sober)vs.a 75 year+ old senior citizen. I'll bet most of us would do better on 6 ****tails in 2 hours than most seniors sober! Take their lic. NOW By the way I dont drink.............much.
Re: Clint Eastwood
Originally posted by smkstklightning
...I always wonder if there is any data out there comparing my reaction times(sober)vs.a 75 year+ old senior citizen...
...I always wonder if there is any data out there comparing my reaction times(sober)vs.a 75 year+ old senior citizen...
(sorry it took so long to respond, reaction time ain't what it used to be)
Originally posted by 1BADBOLT
The exact reason why **** like this happens....

Stupid people doing stupid things. Thank god i dont live in TX near you.
The exact reason why **** like this happens....

Stupid people doing stupid things. Thank god i dont live in TX near you.
Originally posted by dod racing
well there is always Ennis Motorplex...
well there is always Ennis Motorplex...
Originally posted by 98Cobra
Sigh...here we go again. This horse has been beat to death so much it's ridiculous.
Sigh...here we go again. This horse has been beat to death so much it's ridiculous.
Just FYI - An accident here in Central california at a well-attended street race led to the death of one bystander and injuries to four more.
There was an off-duty FCSO deputy sheriff there as a spectator. He has since been terminated by his department, and is being held both criminally and civilly liable for the fact he stood by and did not stop a crime in progress. His department is also being sued by the familiy of the dead youth.
Street racing is beginning to take on the same negative condonation as smoking in public and gun ownership. Just not very popular right now.
There was an off-duty FCSO deputy sheriff there as a spectator. He has since been terminated by his department, and is being held both criminally and civilly liable for the fact he stood by and did not stop a crime in progress. His department is also being sued by the familiy of the dead youth.
Street racing is beginning to take on the same negative condonation as smoking in public and gun ownership. Just not very popular right now.
Originally posted by mswaim
His department is also being sued by the familiy of the dead youth.
His department is also being sued by the familiy of the dead youth.



