Sticking up for our Lightnings on a ZO6 forum
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Originally posted by Fast Gator
So that must me your Black Lightning @ JDM
I was there when the motor/trans where being removed.
And I think 2 seconds quicker will be an understatment
So that must me your Black Lightning @ JDM
I was there when the motor/trans where being removed.And I think 2 seconds quicker will be an understatment
Yah that is my baby… Wish I could have been there – you are lucky being so close to JDM :-) I don’t know about an understatement but it will certainly be quick. Will be at JDM towards the end of the project sometime in April – hope to see you there.
Steve
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Originally posted by James LS1
Someone on here posted about hopin his L would be two seconds faster than a stock Z06. I take NO sides here so don't think I am biased, because my next vehicle will be an L. Tehre is no doubt in my mind. But do NOT underestimate the LS1/LS6 man. I know there are a LOT of fast L's and above all they are extremely responsive to light mods. However, I PERSONALLY have seen bone stock 02 Z06s, i mean on stock tires and all, go 11.8@116 +...
Someone on here posted about hopin his L would be two seconds faster than a stock Z06. I take NO sides here so don't think I am biased, because my next vehicle will be an L. Tehre is no doubt in my mind. But do NOT underestimate the LS1/LS6 man. I know there are a LOT of fast L's and above all they are extremely responsive to light mods. However, I PERSONALLY have seen bone stock 02 Z06s, i mean on stock tires and all, go 11.8@116 +...
Hi James,
I made that statement with the thought that a stock ZO6 with a good driver will turn mid to low 12’s in the quarter. Never heard of a stock ZO6 running in the 11’s but wouldn’t be surprised
Steve
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Originally posted by hdmlnium
Steve,
Where in Maine you from? I live in Scarborough, we will have to do some racing at New England dragway to see who has the quickest Lightning in Maine.
Talk to you soon.
Bill
Steve,
Where in Maine you from? I live in Scarborough, we will have to do some racing at New England dragway to see who has the quickest Lightning in Maine.
Talk to you soon.
Bill
Have been meaning to get a hold of you and say hi but been really busy at work. I live in Kennebunk only about twenty-five minutes away :-) Sounds like you are going to have an awesome truck, we will definitely have to get together at New England dragway this summer. How long until your truck is finished? That is going to be awesome with four valve per cylinder heads :-) Look forward to meeting you
Steve
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Steve,
I will have it back this weekend and Jim and I will release all of the details on Sunday or Monday of the finished project.
There will be a few fast Lightnings this year at Epping with you, Don, and myself all with built motors and aftermarket blowers.
It will be a fun season for sure.
Talk to you soon,
Bill
I will have it back this weekend and Jim and I will release all of the details on Sunday or Monday of the finished project.
There will be a few fast Lightnings this year at Epping with you, Don, and myself all with built motors and aftermarket blowers.
It will be a fun season for sure.
Talk to you soon,
Bill
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Originally posted by hdmlnium
Steve,
I will have it back this weekend and Jim and I will release all of the details on Sunday or Monday of the finished project...
Steve,
I will have it back this weekend and Jim and I will release all of the details on Sunday or Monday of the finished project...
Looking forward to hearing the details :-) Will be a fun season for sure
See you,
Steve
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One fact remains constant. Both the 2nd generation Lightning and the 03 Cobras can thank Ford for bolting a S/C on for the power they make. The Z06 is making it's power the old fashion way. However, I differ on the statement that no other vehicle is capable of cutting 1 1/2 seconds with a CAI, chip and pulley combo. if you add that mix to the new 03 Cobra, you will cut alot more than that off your time. Add to that the solidly built lower end and you have the basis for tons of daily usable power.
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Whew too much crap-slinging for me on that corvette forum (Dan, the folks over at zo6vette.com are much more appreciative of other vehicles...)
I think comparing these particular two vehicles is an exercise in futility, but both have their own unique merits
I think comparing these particular two vehicles is an exercise in futility, but both have their own unique merits
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DB: I wasn't comparing them, just sticking up for some pickup trucks that aren't pos. I post over there to keep them honest and to provide factual info on our Ls. There is so much misunderstanding(or lying?) on the LS1/6/C5 BBs that I just want to spread 'the word' and let them know they MIGHT get whupped-on once in a while from a 4700+ lb. 'brick' --and, if we lose, that's OK too.
Dan
--and, if we lose, that's OK too.Dan
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Originally posted by LIGHTNINROD
DB: I wasn't comparing them, just sticking up for some pickup trucks that aren't pos
Dan
DB: I wasn't comparing them, just sticking up for some pickup trucks that aren't pos
Dan
, I was just poking fun at some of the internet 'racers' over there with their laughable opinions. I agree most don't have a realistic idea of what performance levels can be had with a Lightning...Jason
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Re: You of all people should know
Originally posted by Nasty Wendy
how can make the above statement and list a GrandNational in your sig? If you have the 86/87 IC GrandNational then something is wrong with if it doesn't run 13.80 bone stock. If you aren't a member of Turbobuicks.com/Turbobuick.com/GNTType.org then you should check out those sites. For a Hell of a lot less than $1k you can run DEEP into the 12's. Not trying to hype up the buicks here, just presenting Lightningquick with some facts....and if it weren't for the GrandNational he listed I would agree whole heartedly with his statement.
how can make the above statement and list a GrandNational in your sig? If you have the 86/87 IC GrandNational then something is wrong with if it doesn't run 13.80 bone stock. If you aren't a member of Turbobuicks.com/Turbobuick.com/GNTType.org then you should check out those sites. For a Hell of a lot less than $1k you can run DEEP into the 12's. Not trying to hype up the buicks here, just presenting Lightningquick with some facts....and if it weren't for the GrandNational he listed I would agree whole heartedly with his statement.
And you are WRONG,Not all grand nationals would run 13.8...There are many tracks with traction issues.Just like not all lightnings run 13.6 stock.....
Ive been racing LONG before i bought my ( 3 genration 2 Lightnings )and i know EXACTLY what cars run.
Dont get your panties in a bunch.........
I am VERY familiar with how cheap you can turn up the boost on turbo cars not just GNs...............
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Originally posted by mswaim
One fact remains constant. Both the 2nd generation Lightning and the 03 Cobras can thank Ford for bolting a S/C on for the power they make. The Z06 is making it's power the old fashion way. However, I differ on the statement that no other vehicle is capable of cutting 1 1/2 seconds with a CAI, chip and pulley combo. if you add that mix to the new 03 Cobra, you will cut alot more than that off your time. Add to that the solidly built lower end and you have the basis for tons of daily usable power.
One fact remains constant. Both the 2nd generation Lightning and the 03 Cobras can thank Ford for bolting a S/C on for the power they make. The Z06 is making it's power the old fashion way. However, I differ on the statement that no other vehicle is capable of cutting 1 1/2 seconds with a CAI, chip and pulley combo. if you add that mix to the new 03 Cobra, you will cut alot more than that off your time. Add to that the solidly built lower end and you have the basis for tons of daily usable power.
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It is wisest not to brag about cars not intended for that forum. It will always start a flaming thread. I have owned and raced both cars. Yes I set faster lap times in my Lightning but that is due to setup and familiarity. The vette will corner slightly faster in some turns but the truck can out stop and out power the Vette entering and leaveing the turn. Now if I spent the same 8K dollars in suspension on the car with Brembos, Hotchkis bars, QA1 shocks it would be faster no question. I should have a little over $50K in the truck by June. I only have $34K in the car
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One fact remains constant. Both the 2nd generation Lightning and the 03 Cobras can thank Ford for bolting a S/C on for the power they make. The Z06 is making it's power the old fashion way.
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Originally posted by James LS1
Someone on here posted about hopin his L would be two seconds faster than a stock Z06. I take NO sides here so don't think I am biased, because my next vehicle will be an L. Tehre is no doubt in my mind. But do NOT underestimate the LS1/LS6 man. I know there are a LOT of fast L's and above all they are extremely responsive to light mods. However, I PERSONALLY have seen bone stock 02 Z06s, i mean on stock tires and all, go 11.8@116 +. then again, i have also seen 02s go 12.3 on BFGs. it really varies. but anyone who's buyin an 03 Cobra over a Z06, is strictly for track, those Z's are sharp lookin cars, less there are some avid Chevy h8ers, I actually despise stangs, although i highly revere the new 03's, i love Lightnings to death. because you can't half *** them. no matter waht you do, you're gonna get Torque, and a lot of it. V8, muscle. So be careful with the late model Z's, a good driver in them will give a lot of you guys a good run from a roll. its tough to beat an L from a dig in anythin manual without sticky rubber. jmtc
Someone on here posted about hopin his L would be two seconds faster than a stock Z06. I take NO sides here so don't think I am biased, because my next vehicle will be an L. Tehre is no doubt in my mind. But do NOT underestimate the LS1/LS6 man. I know there are a LOT of fast L's and above all they are extremely responsive to light mods. However, I PERSONALLY have seen bone stock 02 Z06s, i mean on stock tires and all, go 11.8@116 +. then again, i have also seen 02s go 12.3 on BFGs. it really varies. but anyone who's buyin an 03 Cobra over a Z06, is strictly for track, those Z's are sharp lookin cars, less there are some avid Chevy h8ers, I actually despise stangs, although i highly revere the new 03's, i love Lightnings to death. because you can't half *** them. no matter waht you do, you're gonna get Torque, and a lot of it. V8, muscle. So be careful with the late model Z's, a good driver in them will give a lot of you guys a good run from a roll. its tough to beat an L from a dig in anythin manual without sticky rubber. jmtc
Having said that, they are impressive stock and one of the owners got his for GM employee price of around 44k.
A new zo6 is one of the only vettes that i would like to own......someday maybe