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Originally posted by Flying ****
Silver is still the fastest on the west coast. You need about 70 hp more.
Why is your torque so low? You should be well into the 600's
Works 140's shipping in March. Should be interesting
Silver is still the fastest on the west coast. You need about 70 hp more.
Why is your torque so low? You should be well into the 600's
Works 140's shipping in March. Should be interesting
O.K. I saw a picture of the works 140 on the REM site but is this going to be a direct bolt on like the KB ? I noticed the 112 is $3500 that's $500 more than the KB - also didn't someone on here have a problem with there works blower ...??? yes/no...?
Why would one pay $500 more - is there a distinctive HP difference in these two Blowers and what's the price going to be on the 140 ...?

O.K. folks no need to respond - I just read through this thread -
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...s&pagenumber=1
(rolling on the floor more times than I cared too) and it pretty much covered all my questions and then some I will wait till it all shakes out just like Vinnie had suggested -
Last edited by sonichog; Mar 16, 2003 at 09:04 AM.
Red Bolt99 I am very proud to have peggged my MAF @ 4600 and ran out of fuel at about 4700 before I upgraded both systems. I'd say that is something to be proud of because it is merely an expression of how much air you are flowing thus how much HP you're making. Don't be too proud if you havent done either of the above.
You are likely to have both problems very soon if you arent already. Congrats to you and Danny on the awesome numbers!
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03-16-2003 05:50 AM
LOL that's the pure truth.
You are likely to have both problems very soon if you arent already. Congrats to you and Danny on the awesome numbers!
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LOL that's the pure truth.
Why would you be Proud to spend more money when The WORKs is supposed to be a direct repacement?
And I'm pretty happy with my #'s Its my DAILY driver dayin dayout I do Constrution so my truck has been going everywhere with me since day 1 from 99.to 2003 I don't keep it in the Garage only for the weekend I bought because it's a TRUCK.
And I'm pretty happy with my #'s Its my DAILY driver dayin dayout I do Constrution so my truck has been going everywhere with me since day 1 from 99.to 2003 I don't keep it in the Garage only for the weekend I bought because it's a TRUCK.
Originally posted by Red BOLT99
Why would you be Proud to spend more money when The WORKs is supposed to be a direct repacement?
And I'm pretty happy with my #'s Its my DAILY driver dayin dayout I do Constrution so my truck has been going everywhere with me since day 1 from 99.to 2003 I don't keep it in the Garage only for the weekend I bought because it's a TRUCK.
Why would you be Proud to spend more money when The WORKs is supposed to be a direct repacement?
And I'm pretty happy with my #'s Its my DAILY driver dayin dayout I do Constrution so my truck has been going everywhere with me since day 1 from 99.to 2003 I don't keep it in the Garage only for the weekend I bought because it's a TRUCK.
What PSI are you going to run around with on the street? 18 psi?
Having issues like fuel or the MAF are NOT issues related to the blower. They are issues related to airlfow thus HP.
If you don't want these problems with ANY blower its easy...reduce your airflow.
I believe why people have asked to see your SAE corrected dyno with AF is because one would expect to see the above issues at the HP level you are producing. I am very interested also. Kinkos does scans.
*You use a line loc at the construction site?
If you don't want these problems with ANY blower its easy...reduce your airflow.
I believe why people have asked to see your SAE corrected dyno with AF is because one would expect to see the above issues at the HP level you are producing. I am very interested also. Kinkos does scans.
*You use a line loc at the construction site?
Last edited by Calightnin; Mar 16, 2003 at 02:15 PM.
Well all I had to do was Bolt the KB on then take it to Danny SWANSON and in 1hour my truck was done and My #'s where good and A/f was safe did'nt run out of MAF/Fuel/ or injectors/!
So Im Happy.
and I drive around with 16lbs and the truck feals stock until I nail it so Thats all I have to say.
So Im Happy.
and I drive around with 16lbs and the truck feals stock until I nail it so Thats all I have to say.
So i cant bolt on a Works 140 in one hour
I believe in one of JLP's thread it stated JLP was the only authorized source to be allowed to sell the blowers without being installed by their shop. So, does that mean you bought direct from JLP or Swanson? Has this embargo been lifted on this rule?
Both blowers are direct replacement bolt ons. Neither one is difficult to install.
The 2 prototype Works 140's were a little hard to get to the rear pass plug #4. This has been re-engineered. Who would of guessed Ford would place the cabs off by 1/2 "on the trucks. The distance of the firewalls vary truck to truck.
KB is top entry which gives direct access to the plugs like stock.
Works is rear entry and a larger blower then the KB. You can get to the #4 plug without being an acrobat. Null point.
Its nice you have a KB. I was just expecting more power out of your truck.. Thats why the MAF and Fuel questions came up. Trying to save you from buying a shortblock early.
I believe in one of JLP's thread it stated JLP was the only authorized source to be allowed to sell the blowers without being installed by their shop. So, does that mean you bought direct from JLP or Swanson? Has this embargo been lifted on this rule?
Both blowers are direct replacement bolt ons. Neither one is difficult to install.
The 2 prototype Works 140's were a little hard to get to the rear pass plug #4. This has been re-engineered. Who would of guessed Ford would place the cabs off by 1/2 "on the trucks. The distance of the firewalls vary truck to truck.
KB is top entry which gives direct access to the plugs like stock.
Works is rear entry and a larger blower then the KB. You can get to the #4 plug without being an acrobat. Null point.
Its nice you have a KB. I was just expecting more power out of your truck.. Thats why the MAF and Fuel questions came up. Trying to save you from buying a shortblock early.
Expecting more power?
****, You are crazy!! He is making a lot of power!! Torque figures can be increased by starting the dyno run at a lower rpm. Same torque, just a larger number on paper. I am sure that both blowers will make great power. He makes a hell of a lot more power than I do!! Skip
Originally posted by Red BOLT99
Well all I had to do was Bolt the KB on then take it to Danny SWANSON and in 1hour my truck was done and My #'s where good and A/f was safe did'nt run out of MAF/Fuel/ or injectors/!
So Im Happy.
Well all I had to do was Bolt the KB on then take it to Danny SWANSON and in 1hour my truck was done and My #'s where good and A/f was safe did'nt run out of MAF/Fuel/ or injectors/!
So Im Happy.
Originally posted by Red BOLT99
and I drive around with 16lbs and the truck feals stock until I nail it so Thats all I have to say.
and I drive around with 16lbs and the truck feals stock until I nail it so Thats all I have to say.
torque difference:
If i rember right dale has a dyno program on his chip that eliminates the kick down so you can pull form way down low, and get a good tq. number. Danny dynos in what 3rd gear above the kick down so max torque doesnt show up on papper.
If i rember right dale has a dyno program on his chip that eliminates the kick down so you can pull form way down low, and get a good tq. number. Danny dynos in what 3rd gear above the kick down so max torque doesnt show up on papper.
In addition the twin screw develops torque in a very different manner than the roots blower. It's very hard to compare the Eaton to the KB or the Works 140 just based on torque numbers alone.
If you look at a KB or Works140 dyno next to a Eaton blower you will see that there are fundamental differences in the torque curve.
Works 112 (Roots)
Works 140 (Twin Screw)
If you look at a KB or Works140 dyno next to a Eaton blower you will see that there are fundamental differences in the torque curve.
Works 112 (Roots)
Works 140 (Twin Screw)
Last edited by Calightnin; Mar 16, 2003 at 05:26 PM.


