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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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it glows if it not factory or is factory
What I'm getting from this is, if you put the factory computer under a black light it will glow blue
 
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Conformal coating glows blue
Hotmelt glue does not
 
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Why does Ford even have a port in there? If the is a set of contacts what would Ford plug into them? When I went to an SVT event some geek from Ford plugged a Lap Top into mine..I think..If I remember correctly...He said it is done by some Dyno testers..I think If I remember..My recollections are vague.....
 
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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can conformal coatings be applied by anyone or is special equipment required.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Why does Ford even have a port in there? If the is a set of contacts what would Ford plug into them? When I went to an SVT event some geek from Ford plugged a Lap Top into mine..I think..If I remember correctly...He said it is done by some Dyno testers..I think If I remember..My recollections are vague.....
My guess is that they have to program the computer from the factory and that is what they plug it into. Maybe someone else knows?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Re: protective coating on the computer terminals

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Does any one have a good concoction for the protective coating on the computer terminals that have to be cleaned off for a chip. Not that I want to clean them or anything

This whole deal doesn't make sense to me, when you order a new pcm from ford, sometimes the contacts are already scratched off, when you attach an ngs scanner to it, the contacts need to be cleaned from what I know,,, I dont beleive its the fact the contacts have been scratched at all, I much more so beleive it has to deal with the hard codes stored on the pcm.

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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Re: Re: protective coating on the computer terminals

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This whole deal doesn't make sense to me, when you order a new pcm from ford, sometimes the contacts are already scratched off, when you attach an ngs scanner to it, the contacts need to be cleaned from what I know,,, I dont beleive its the fact the contacts have been scratched at all, I much more so beleive it has to deal with the hard codes stored on the pcm.

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You have to give your VIN number when you get a new pcm. So that may get you off the hook there because that would be on your record for your truck, plus they have to reprogram it to work. I don’t know what an ngs scanner is?..... From what I’ve read a chip leaves a soft code and that can be cleared by just disconnecting the battery. I’m not sure about a chip leaving a hard code? Maybe a technician can chime in and tell us?
 

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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I may be mistaken, but the contacts have been described in other threads as a legacy access port that SVT used to test and tune the Lightning during its development. After SVT was done, they didn't redesign the circuit board without the port (and maybe Ford kept it around for other reasons too).
 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Re: Re: protective coating on the computer terminals

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You have to give your VIN number when you get a new pcm.
So is the solution to grab an L VIN off ebay and try to cheat your way to a new pcm?


Yessir, that truck must just be blowing pcm's or something.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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the NGS or any other scan or diagnostic tool for that matter hooks up to the DLC Data Link Connector under the dash on the drivers side. obviously this is not the same place you plug your chip in. if you put YOUR chip there and it worked, you must know something I don't know

There is supposedly a code (PO605 maybe?) that is stored if the pcm sees an aftermarket device. I only know this because ford has service messages about it. I have NEVER actually seen a vehicle come into the shop with this code stored. from chips to superchargers and most anything else you can think of I have never actually seen this code stored or hard fault.

any and all codes can be cleared by simply disconnecting the battery or pressing clear on a scan tool anyway.

a hard fault is a condition that is present at the time the test is performed.

a stored (or continuous memory) code is a condition that is may or may not be present at the time of the test, but the fault has been seen enough times by the pcm to store the fault code in memory.

I have never heard of a "soft code" from Ford, but generally around here what that means is a code that is stored in the pcm's memory, but does't turn the Check Engine or Service Engine Soon light on. like unplugging your boost bypass solenoid.

an NGS is one of Ford's diagnostic/scan tools. it stands for New Generation Star tester.

hope this helps.

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Just ordered a can of the Humiseal from www.kranderson.com for $42 including UPS shipping. Never know when you might need it... now I just need to get some silver/grey model paint...
 
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Just ordered a can of the Humiseal from www.kranderson.com for $42 including UPS shipping. Never know when you might need it... now I just need to get some silver/grey model paint...
I think I will do the same

Originally posted by superfords
the NGS or any other scan or diagnostic tool for that matter hooks up to the DLC Data Link Connector under the dash on the drivers side. obviously this is not the same place you plug your chip in. if you put YOUR chip there and it worked, you must know something I don't know

There is supposedly a code (PO605 maybe?) that is stored if the pcm sees an aftermarket device. I only know this because ford has service messages about it. I have NEVER actually seen a vehicle come into the shop with this code stored. from chips to superchargers and most anything else you can think of I have never actually seen this code stored or hard fault.

any and all codes can be cleared by simply disconnecting the battery or pressing clear on a scan tool anyway.

a hard fault is a condition that is present at the time the test is performed.

a stored (or continuous memory) code is a condition that is may or may not be present at the time of the test, but the fault has been seen enough times by the pcm to store the fault code in memory.

I have never heard of a "soft code" from Ford, but generally around here what that means is a code that is stored in the pcm's memory, but does't turn the Check Engine or Service Engine Soon light on. like unplugging your boost bypass solenoid.

an NGS is one of Ford's diagnostic/scan tools. it stands for New Generation Star tester.

hope this helps.

later,
chris
So looks like all I would have to do is unplug the battery for a while to clear any codes a chip may leave then. Hey Chris, have you even hooked your truck up with the chip in to see if it has any codes?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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Out of curiosity I checked with Radio Shaq and they had no Conformal coating. I have to repair a cracked circuit board with a bit of solder an need to coat it from moisture...guess I'll keep looking.....

As for the soft codes superfords mentioned..I have heard and used this term. One EECIV pcm's it think the soft code cycles off every so many stop and start cycles or if you remove power..The soft codes are transient...in other words not hard and
faults that need fixed before they will clear...
 
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