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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Hids or xenon

Okay so which is brighter ? Hids or xenon? Also how do the numbers work ? Is it the bigger the number the brighter the bulb ? Also what's the brightest bulb allowed in Ohio. And the last question if I add either one of them bulbs should I worry about it being to long and not fitting or should I worry about them getting to hot and melting my housing ? Thanks for the help !
 
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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Okay so which is brighter ? Hids or xenon? Also how do the numbers work ? Is it the bigger the number the brighter the bulb ? Also what's the brightest bulb allowed in Ohio. And the last question if I add either one of them bulbs should I worry about it being to long and not fitting or should I worry about them getting to hot and melting my housing ? Thanks for the help !
I think more research is in order for you before making a purchase. Xenon is a gas found in HID bulbs, to simplify it they're are the same.

The number will determine the color temperature for lack of better words, basically a lower number is closer to yellow and higher number you get into those lights that look like they belong on a civic like blue, purple, and pink.

The most useable light is around 4300k and the whitest light is around 5000k.

Technically speaking, unless you have an oem HID projector housing no hids are legal. Going with a plug and play set would be the definition of illegal and useless as you'll aim more light into the eyes of oncoming traffic and the tops of tress than ups would on the road since halogen reflectors act differently.

If you wanted to be as close to legal as possible you'd either need to purchase a set of retrofitted housings or do your own, with projectors made for hids.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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I think more research is in order for you before making a purchase. Xenon is a gas found in HID bulbs, to simplify it they're are the same.

The number will determine the color temperature for lack of better words, basically a lower number is closer to yellow and higher number you get into those lights that look like they belong on a civic like blue, purple, and pink.

The most useable light is around 4300k and the whitest light is around 5000k.

Technically speaking, unless you have an oem HID projector housing no hids are legal. Going with a plug and play set would be the definition of illegal and useless as you'll aim more light into the eyes of oncoming traffic and the tops of tress than ups would on the road since halogen reflectors act differently.

If you wanted to be as close to legal as possible you'd either need to purchase a set of retrofitted housings or do your own, with projectors made for hids.
Pretty much sums it up
 
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:46 PM
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Alright thank you that was well appreciated and it did sum it up !
 
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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Hey you seem like a nice guy. People have been giving me hell every time I ask about this, but I wanna put the brightest street legal bulb possible in the new headlights I'm getting. They are CCFL Halo projector headlights. Now everyone has told me don't get them there junk buy retro fits. But I have a truck with high miles and just want a decent headlight and I love the looks of halos. But my budy just put HIDs in his so I know they work but I want bright. As bright as I can get them. So if you could please help me with this ? Like I said I appreciate you being nice everyone else when I asked this George practicly said I was stupid for doing it but I don't have $700 to $1,000 to dump on a pair of custom bright headlights. Thanks again !
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I think more research is in order for you before making a purchase. Xenon is a gas found in HID bulbs, to simplify it they're are the same.

The number will determine the color temperature for lack of better words, basically a lower number is closer to yellow and higher number you get into those lights that look like they belong on a civic like blue, purple, and pink.

The most useable light is around 4300k and the whitest light is around 5000k.

Technically speaking, unless you have an oem HID projector housing no hids are legal. Going with a plug and play set would be the definition of illegal and useless as you'll aim more light into the eyes of oncoming traffic and the tops of tress than ups would on the road since halogen reflectors act differently.

If you wanted to be as close to legal as possible you'd either need to purchase a set of retrofitted housings or do your own, with projectors made for hids.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 11:25 PM
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Hey you seem like a nice guy. People have been giving me hell every time I ask about this, but I wanna put the brightest street legal bulb possible in the new headlights I'm getting. They are CCFL Halo projector headlights. Now everyone has told me don't get them there junk buy retro fits. But I have a truck with high miles and just want a decent headlight and I love the looks of halos. But my budy just put HIDs in his so I know they work but I want bright. As bright as I can get them. So if you could please help me with this ? Like I said I appreciate you being nice everyone else when I asked this George practicly said I was stupid for doing it but I don't have $700 to $1,000 to dump on a pair of custom bright headlights. Thanks again !
I won't recommend hids in a housing that doesn't have projectors designed for it, I live in an area where every other vehicle has them in halogen housings so I know how obnoxious the glare is to oncoming traffic. Also hids in those halogen projector housings will begin to cause the reflector to deteriorate over time, another reason I wouldn't recommend it.

If you are looking for a bright light on a budget I'd recommend a quality set of halogen bulbs. It's been a while since I looked at them but I remember silverstar ultras and ge nighthawks being pretty good.

Another option is a bit more expensive, but the mini h1 projectors would allow for hids. They run about 120 but they're almost drop in and go, probably the easiest to retro.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuckMafia
Hey you seem like a nice guy. People have been giving me hell every time I ask about this, but I wanna put the brightest street legal bulb possible in the new headlights I'm getting. They are CCFL Halo projector headlights. Now everyone has told me don't get them there junk buy retro fits. But I have a truck with high miles and just want a decent headlight and I love the looks of halos. But my budy just put HIDs in his so I know they work but I want bright. As bright as I can get them. So if you could please help me with this ? Like I said I appreciate you being nice everyone else when I asked this George practicly said I was stupid for doing it but I don't have $700 to $1,000 to dump on a pair of custom bright headlights. Thanks again !
Glad to see you use the words "street legal" in your post, but that will limit your choices - thank god. There is a ton of stuff out there that isn't street legal that folks are buying and putting in their vehicles. Does this junk say (in advertising) that it's brighter? Just about every time. Does this junk actually put out more light? Rarely. Does this junk sometimes just put more light into the eyes of oncoming motorists? Almost every time.

Here's the root of the problem. Manufacturers - reputable ones at least - are limited by law as to how much power (measured in watts) that street legal bulbs can put out. Even the ones who claim to put out more light (Silverstars for instance) are all limited by the same laws. So are Silverstars actually brighter? Sure, if you're replacing a several year old set of bulbs that have dimmed over time. Otherwise, not really.

I fully understand and can relate to you not having a ton of coin available to upgrade your headlights. The problem is, putting more usable light on the ground - while not pissing off oncoming motorists - isn't easy or cheap to do. Said another way, good lighting costs money. And as for "halo" style lights, think about this. Are you willing to spend your hard earned money to look cool or to put more usable light on the ground? Cheap halos just look cool. They suck for putting usable light on the ground. However, they're exceedingly good at pissing off oncoming motorists.

Hope that helps.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Yeah see. I like the halo design but I wanna light on the ground. I live in the country and don't really pass that much people on the road ways so it doesn't really bother me lol. Now my budy just put HIDs in his halos for his 98 chevy and they seem really bright. I was just worried they wouldn't fit and stuff. I'm not familiar with lighting that much. I found daul beam HIDs on eBay for anywhere from $30 to $60 for a set of them.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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Yeah see. I like the halo design but I wanna light on the ground. I live in the country and don't really pass that much people on the road ways so it doesn't really bother me lol. Now my budy just put HIDs in his halos for his 98 chevy and they seem really bright. I was just worried they wouldn't fit and stuff. I'm not familiar with lighting that much. I found daul beam HIDs on eBay for anywhere from $30 to $60 for a set of them.
I hear ya. I live in a semi rural area and do a good bit of driving in some pretty remote areas. That said, you might want to consider something I do to all of my vehicles. I add a set of high quality driving lights tied in with a relay to my high beams. For less than $100, you can get a really good set from Hella, PIAA or others and if aimed properly, you'll be amazed at how much light they will put on the ground and how far out they will reach. Better yet, you'll still have your OEM headlights to fall back on.

PS: Here's a set of Hella 500 driving beams that includes everything you'll need - for well less than $100.00.

Amazon.com: HELLA 005750952 500 Series 12V/55W Halogen Driving Lamp Kit (Fun Cubed): Automotive Amazon.com: HELLA 005750952 500 Series 12V/55W Halogen Driving Lamp Kit (Fun Cubed): Automotive
 

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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 10:54 PM
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I got a set of spot lights but there not street legal even though I use them on the roads. I'm gonna get these halo and see how they are and go from there because my stock headlights are starting to get a little foggy any way.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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I got a set of spot lights but there not street legal even though I use them on the roads. I'm gonna get these halo and see how they are and go from there because my stock headlights are starting to get a little foggy any way.
Have fun with craptastic output, horrible fitment,(gaps... GAPS EVERYWHERE!!) And more than likely the leds will burn out within 6 months and the bowls of the fake projectors will burn in less than a year. But you've been told this before and still didn't listen so I feel I'm just beating a dead horse.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Have fun with craptastic output, horrible fitment,(gaps... GAPS EVERYWHERE!!) And more than likely the leds will burn out within 6 months and the bowls of the fake projectors will burn in less than a year. But you've been told this before and still didn't listen so I feel I'm just beating a dead horse.
Hit that one right on the head. What a waste of money. Oh well, I tried.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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I have spent more money on cheap headlights than I care to admit too. I know what you are trying to do but the money you sink into these can be saved and put towards a proper purchase that will correct the issue long term. I am in the same boat. I want HID’s badly but I have to have patience and discipline in my discretionary spending to save and do it right. If your plan is to go ahead and drop HID’s into those aftermarket lights they will not last long. HID's get really hot. I mean, it is a gas on fire inside. They will melt and burn as mentioned above. Not to mention these cheapo light lenses tend to yellow and fog up faster. I even had a set peel.

If you really insist on going with them get a set of PIAA Xtreme white Halogens for them. That plus the projectors might focus a little more light on the road for you but it’s not going to be a huge difference.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Ok they show the H1 HID bulb and the 9007/9004/HB5 in a single, Hi/Lo , and the flew bixenon but what the difference between them and what will work for highs and low or like what should I look for ? I don't know a thing about them and don't know what's the best route or anything. Thinking about maybe having a local make me some retrofits and wanted some moreinformation on them. I know you guys posting stuff before but I wanna know the summed up ( dumb) version of these so I actually know what they are. Thank again ! In an 03 f150
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Ok they show the H1 HID bulb and the 9007/9004/HB5 in a single, Hi/Lo , and the flew bixenon but what the difference between them and what will work for highs and low or like what should I look for ? I don't know a thing about them and don't know what's the best route or anything. Thinking about maybe having a local make me some retrofits and wanted some moreinformation on them. I know you guys posting stuff before but I wanna know the summed up ( dumb) version of these so I actually know what they are. Thank again ! In an 03 f150
Bu-xenon means it functions as you high and low beam. Your stock bulb is 9007. But I don't condone PNP 9007 in your stock housings.
Now if you get a local guy to make you a retrofit bi-xenon is the shield in the projector that folds over for high beam and comes back up to make a cut-off for low beam. Most retros take a D2S bulb, but there is one true hid projector that takes a H1 bulb.
 
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