Headlight Re-Sealing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 1, 2012 | 02:36 PM
  #1  
sam1947's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 2
From: Maine
Headlight Re-Sealing

Just a quick question for the masses and the more experienced out there. What is the best, and safest against leaks, way to seal up headlights after a retro or painting. Is it best to swear and have a mental breakdown trying to get all the old sealant out and start new with a new bead of sealant, or, can you get away with aligning the lens back on with clamps and using the oven with the original sealant? Also when heating the units to soften the seal, do you keep the oven on or off for the 'baking' process (with cardboard under the light). I just need some hints and experiences out there. Thanks millions (07 FX4 lights) And HAPPY NEW YEAR !! to all members.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2012 | 10:06 PM
  #2  
Raptor05121's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,610
Likes: 7
From: Live Oak, FL
I'd keep it on. Shutting the oven off isnt going to help any because as soon as you open the door it cools down. Plus you will find it needs more time. IE just keep it on. Don't go over 250.

If they are OEM headlamps w/ permaseal, it will not reseal. They are too hard. If it is an aftermarket unit with the gooey stuff, then yeah that reseals with heat.

Aftermarket= reheat, OEM= take your time, peel it all off and use new silicone.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2012 | 10:21 PM
  #3  
sam1947's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 2
From: Maine
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
I'd keep it on. Shutting the oven off isnt going to help any because as soon as you open the door it cools down. Plus you will find it needs more time. IE just keep it on. Don't go over 250.

If they are OEM headlamps w/ permaseal, it will not reseal. They are too hard. If it is an aftermarket unit with the gooey stuff, then yeah that reseals with heat.

Aftermarket= reheat, OEM= take your time, peel it all off and use new silicone.
Thanks for the info 'Raptor'. I'm not sure if the units are OEM or not as I bought them apart and ready for FX-R's (took a chance on the aim). The sealant is a greyish semi-tacky silicone at the moment, what does the 'permaseal' stuff look like. All the ones I have taken apart have been aftermarket...i know, I'm a pathetic case. :o
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:25 PM
  #4  
Raptor05121's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,610
Likes: 7
From: Live Oak, FL
after markets are easier to reseal. Permaseal is really hard stuff like cement so if it is tacky then it can be reheated
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:31 PM
  #5  
thebigbc's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Just an FYI for ya. If you do wind up having the factory headlights, with that really hard to get out sealant isn't to bad. Just use a real heat gun. I tried it on this last set of headlights that I did and the crap just came out as one huge piece. Just dont melt the plastic housing. AKA be careful.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:15 PM
  #6  
sam1947's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 2
From: Maine
Originally Posted by thebigbc
Just an FYI for ya. If you do wind up having the factory headlights, with that really hard to get out sealant isn't to bad. Just use a real heat gun. I tried it on this last set of headlights that I did and the crap just came out as one huge piece. Just dont melt the plastic housing. AKA be careful.
I had a set of 'Hellas' that had the harder sealant, that was the easiest sealant I ever came across to get out, one whole length.

Thanks for the pointers !!!!
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:45 PM
  #7  
2009KR's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
It is very easy to get warm permaseal to lift out of the headlights. As mentioned earlier, a heat gun is helpful, but you can also just put the unit back in the oven. 230 degrees, or so, and the permaseal just lifts out.

Getting the light resealed completely is, in my experience, very difficult.
 
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:01 AM
  #8  
ndynnve9's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
was the easiest sealant I ever came across to get out, one whole length.
 
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:09 AM
  #9  
huangSmall's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
I tried it on this last set of headlights that I did and the crap just came out as one huge piece. Just dont melt the plastic housing. AKA be careful.
 
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:35 AM
  #10  
88racing's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,697
Likes: 14
From: In the fast lane from LA to Tokyo...
To reseal>>> http://shop.lightwerkz.net/Koito-Butyl-Rubber-Sealer
 
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:13 PM
  #11  
sam1947's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 2
From: Maine
Originally Posted by 88racing
Thanks for the link '88', might try some of that stuff in the future, just wish there was an easier way to get that grey tacky stuff out..just don't trust the re-heating method to re-seal..
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:15 PM
  #12  
2009KR's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by sam1947
Thanks for the link '88', might try some of that stuff in the future, just wish there was an easier way to get that grey tacky stuff out..just don't trust the re-heating method to re-seal..
I got tired of battling mine. I put a bead of Goop around the lens after "sealing" with the butyl.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:21 AM.