The Moon........
The new Apollo 18 movie is about a secret mission post-ceding the Apollo 17 mission (which was the last one). They 18 crew goes to the moon and finds scary monsters, gets eaten, etc, etc.
yup, all the astronauts, all Nasa personnell, all the TV crews and all the tracking stations all over the world were faking it and not one person out of thousands has come forward to inform American and the world of the hoax.
Not to mention all the construction crews that would have been used to create the sets and the development of the Lunar Landing Craft and the Lunar Suits.
Columbus really didn't sail to the America's either. Propaganda.
The Russians never developed Lunar Rover's which landed shortly after our first moon mission, too. Communist Propaganda.
Not to mention all the construction crews that would have been used to create the sets and the development of the Lunar Landing Craft and the Lunar Suits.
Columbus really didn't sail to the America's either. Propaganda.
The Russians never developed Lunar Rover's which landed shortly after our first moon mission, too. Communist Propaganda.
Then tell me why not one single telescope that we have can find where we landed.. You ask anyone in astrology to find the landing site they can't find it..
James
Wow. I guess the retroreflector that was placed on the moon in Apollo 15 that reflects light shined from a high-powered laser must be fake too. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LR...lo15-LRRR.html
Have you even done any research on the subject? There are literally thousands of document proving those conspiracies false.
It was the age of exploration. Kennedy challenged the country to keep pushing the bounds of technology. Yes it was a race against the russians, but in that race, the whole world flourished from its outcome. However, it comes with a price. A total of $6.5 billion was appropriated for the Saturn V rocket (also the second loudest man-made object in history. It is also the heaviest, at just under 7 million pounds). One of the main reasons for the cancellation of the Apollo program was the cost. In 1966, NASA received its biggest budget of $4 billion, about 0.5 percent of the GDP of the United States at that time. The cost of a Saturn V including launch was around $1.1 billion. That is something we don't have right now. Not to mention we've just about gotten everything we need from the moon. It doesn't have anything to offer. While more expensive, Mars offers more opportunities to explore. But I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
Have you even done any research on the subject? There are literally thousands of document proving those conspiracies false.
It was the age of exploration. Kennedy challenged the country to keep pushing the bounds of technology. Yes it was a race against the russians, but in that race, the whole world flourished from its outcome. However, it comes with a price. A total of $6.5 billion was appropriated for the Saturn V rocket (also the second loudest man-made object in history. It is also the heaviest, at just under 7 million pounds). One of the main reasons for the cancellation of the Apollo program was the cost. In 1966, NASA received its biggest budget of $4 billion, about 0.5 percent of the GDP of the United States at that time. The cost of a Saturn V including launch was around $1.1 billion. That is something we don't have right now. Not to mention we've just about gotten everything we need from the moon. It doesn't have anything to offer. While more expensive, Mars offers more opportunities to explore. But I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
Sorry but I don't believe any of our government websites. Let alone NASA... I know they have done a lot for our time but they want you to believe what they want you too, just like our government and media...
How come we haven't went back to study it more?
James
I'll respond to the rest of your paranoia and and ignorance in a minute (really, not a single person with access to telescopes can find the landing sites?), but I must comment on the above...
Did you not read what Raptor wrote? Right now we're at a record level of debt and NASA is taking the hit.
Why spend billions of dollars and risk human life to go back to the moon when new satellites, telescopes, ROVs, etc can get better data than a human can? It's not some big cover up or mystery, it's pretty simple economics.
Now if they discovered a boat-load of rare metals up there or something extremely valuable, then you might see interest in returning to the moon, otherwise why waste the effort?
I really can't believe people can be this dense about things that can be proved scientifically, it's not like a political idea or ethical values.
- NCSU
Did you not read what Raptor wrote? Right now we're at a record level of debt and NASA is taking the hit.
Why spend billions of dollars and risk human life to go back to the moon when new satellites, telescopes, ROVs, etc can get better data than a human can? It's not some big cover up or mystery, it's pretty simple economics.
Now if they discovered a boat-load of rare metals up there or something extremely valuable, then you might see interest in returning to the moon, otherwise why waste the effort?
I really can't believe people can be this dense about things that can be proved scientifically, it's not like a political idea or ethical values.
- NCSU

Moon Landings = Fact.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...09/17jul_lroc/
Probably fake also. Hehehehe
The guy doing the crop circles probably put the boot prints up there, too.
Well if you believe anything our government says then your the one who is dense. You believe a government that strips us of our freedom day after day..
Sorry this is my opinion and I'm not going to waste my time arguing over something that too me isn't that important..
Remember your talking about a gov denying and denying that area 51 wasn't there.. They would swear up and down that it wasn't there even though they confronted the people in charge of it, senators, etc.... So yes the gov can and had lied to us for a long time..
James
Last edited by JForestZ34; Aug 31, 2011 at 02:27 PM.
Can you please tell me what you are no longer free to do today that you could do 10 years ago, 20 years ago? Believe me, I'm as strong a supporter for individual freedoms (and the responsibilities that go with that) but you make it sound like the US is turning in to N.Korea or something.
Lemme guess, if you bother to answer, you'll probably come up with something like, "I can't use leaded gasoline anymore", or I can't smoke a cigarette on a plane anymore", etc etc.

Sorry this is my opinion and I'm not going to waste my time arguing over something that too me isn't that important..
Remember your talking about a gov denying and denying that area 51 wasn't there.. They would swear up and down that it wasn't there even though they confronted the people in charge of it, senators, etc.... So yes the gov can and had lied to us for a long time..
James
Remember your talking about a gov denying and denying that area 51 wasn't there.. They would swear up and down that it wasn't there even though they confronted the people in charge of it, senators, etc.... So yes the gov can and had lied to us for a long time..
James
I also think that the gov't does have a right and a responsibility to NOT disclose everything they're doing, at all times, to everyone. Do you think we would have won (even survived) the cold war if everything every gov't employee was doing was a matter of public record? Do you think we would have gotten Bin Laden if we let everyone know what Seal Team 6 is up to?
Yes our gov't lies, but not about everything. It actually requires thinking and maybe even some independent research to determine what may or may not be the actual truth. When you have something as well documented, studied and confirmed as the moon-landings, to actually believe it was faked crosses into tin-foil hat loony-bin thinking.
I'm almost afraid to ask, but do you think 9/11 was an inside job?

- NCSU
Last edited by NCSU_05_FX4; Aug 31, 2011 at 04:08 PM.
Can you please tell me what you are no longer free to do today that you could do 10 years ago, 20 years ago? Believe me, I'm as strong a supporter for individual freedoms (and the responsibilities that go with that) but you make it sound like the US is turning in to N.Korea or something.
Lemme guess, if you bother to answer, you'll probably come up with something like, "I can't use leaded gasoline anymore", or I can't smoke a cigarette on a plane anymore", etc etc.

Nope it's called the patriot act..
I agree James, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, regardless of how wrong, misinformed or moronic as it may be.
I also think that the gov't does have a right and a responsibility to NOT disclose everything they're doing, at all times, to everyone. Do you think we would have won (even survived) the cold war if everything every gov't employee was doing was a matter of public record? Do you think we would have gotten Bin Laden if we let everyone know what Seal Team 6 is up to?
Yes our gov't lies, but not about everything. It actually requires thinking and maybe even some independent research to determine what may or may not be the actual truth. When you have something as well documented, studied and confirmed as the moon-landings, to actually believe it was faked crosses into tin-foil hat loony-bin thinking.
I'm almost afraid to ask, but do you think 9/11 was an inside job?
Ah, nice to see someone with working grey matter between their ears!

- NCSU
And what about our gov lying about WMD over in iraq.. When powell even said that there were none?
Just another war to protect certain people assest's over in another country so they can fill their pockets..
What about this 60 billions dollars that went missing over in that region? I'm sure they will come up with a lame excuse as to where it went...
Just because some one has a different view than you our other doesn't mean their a moron, I just means that we are open to what if's or it could be differently than the main stream...
James





