Yeah, the one of Marvick the Maverick!

 

marvick for president 2012.

 

 

Whata beast!

 

Harley - A comment like yours is most often heard from someone who has never been in a war, and knows nothing about the brutality possible in interrogations.

When we departed from the "high road" in our interrogation techniques, we gave up any possible voice we had regarding the humane treatment of prisoners on both sides. One of the factors that has kept America strong has been our morality. I side totally with Senator McCain here.

By engaging in these "questionable" interrogation practices, we have committed our future fighting men and women to unspeakable horror, and we will not be able to fall back on "The Geneva Convention", because we ourselves violated it.

Senator McCain was subjected to treatment you and I cannot possibly imagine. I accept him as an authority on the subject. I only wish he had been consulted before these "techniques" were implemented.

- Jack

 

Well said Jack I'd hug ya if you were closer...

 

Wow. How you got all that out of me asking the kid to back up his statement is interesting. I have heard both that it did help and that it didn't, I wanted to know if he had some solid proof that maybe I hadn't heard yet.

And FYI, I know all to well about war and its brutality.

 

Did I support my info? I believe I did!

 

'Taking the high road' can also be debated when it comes to interrogation. The argument can be flopped around that a documented killer/enemy could know information about future things to come. It could be immoral to want to 'protect' a criminal's 'rights' and leave innocents in harm's way.

I think everyone would agree that once you commit a crime, your rights are lost. If someone doesn't believe in this, then they obviously wouldn't believe in jail, arrests, or any form of punishment for their bad deeds.

America has always treated it's enemies in general, very well. Are you going to seriously say that our troops throughout the decades have been treated good because of our goodness. Maybe the Japanese, Italians, Germans, Middle Easterns, Africans, Vietnamese, ect never rang a bell to you...

Can any of us civilians really form a correct opinion on military decisions when none of us have any experience in a high ranking military position?

When people start stating how the military should do or not do something, I have to tune it out. Because it really is a waste of air.

 

Still torture is not the best method because victims will try to say what he/she thinks the person wants to hear to make pain stop.

 

I've never served in the military, though I do have an opinion.

You are correct. I cannot even begin to imagine what the treatement that McCain, and the many others were subjected to must have been like. I'm sure that there are scars they must live with every day of their lives. Unlike the Americans who have been beheaded, or killed, had their genetials mutilated and where dragged through the streets. The people subjected that that type of treatement don't get to live with the scars every day. The savages who capture our men and women finish them off after they subject them to such treatement. Instead of living with the scars, their last breath is taken in extreme pain and suffering.

I don't know if the treatment that enemy combatants recieve in interrogation is torture. I believe that if our soldiers are captured, they are likely to be tortured, and then killed.

 

I think blu and K are one and the same.

Anyways, thanks for the laugh !

 

Well said.

I must also add that I don't think any sane person can compare waterboarding to what John McCain went through.

 

If you were the actual intelligence guys that waterboarded and questioned these documented terrorists, then I would believe you.

Until then, I won't believe any side of the argument because neither side has all the facts straight on if the information the terrorists gave was helpful or not.

I am for whatever works. If it did/does work, then I won't let the bleeding heart's emotions get in the way of protecting lives.

 

Can't see how it helped.
This Shak guy was captured in '03 and got 'enhanced interogated'.
I'm assuming he didn't get love letters in Gitmo from the middle east so, he knows no facts from '03 forward.

Eight years later we get Osama.
O'Reilly wails this is proof positive 'enhanced interogation' works.

If that's true, let me offer this.
Everytime I fart, lightning strikes in my backyard.
I just farted.
In eight years I will either be a liar, or you can call me thunder butt.