At least i have a summer home, not a campground fulled with infidels!!!!

Raoul & Habibi= ****.........

 

This brings up an interesting point, to me at least. If firefighters and police are paid services, why should an off-duty cop have any more authority than any other joe-citizen out on the street?

- NCSU

 

Below are the annual retirement pensions paid in my city and county, which has like 15% unemployement. The original newspaper article from last month published the names, but I see no need to go there.

FWIW, we have 175 county & city retirees collecting $100,000+ per year, quite a few of whom were 'disabled' just prior to retirement, which allows their pensions to be exempt from income tax.

Don't worry, the 'deadbeat' taxpayers will be expected to cough up CPI or COLA adjustments, too. FWIW, many of these public servants retired in their 50's.

KERN COUNTY EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION
(fire chief): $232,547
(fire chief): $177,885
(chief deputy fire department): $168,282
(sheriff): $165,133


CITY OF BAKERSFIELD
(police chief): $160,557
(assistant police chief): $148,756
(deputy fire chief): $141,096
(deputy fire chief): $137,061
(deputy fire chief): $136,416
(police captain): $128,472
(police lieutenant): $125,631
(police chief): $125,108
(police captain): $123,915

Look, I appreciate public service, but these pension deals are just not sustainable.

Just something to keep in mind when you call 911 and they put you on hold to check your tax records before they decide if they will come out and help.

 

Protect and Serve first. Bill me later.

 

I see a simple way for at least one city in CA to reduce their overhead by over a $1,000,000 per year.

Nobody deserves $100k+ per year of taxpayer money for doing nothing. They're lucky they don't get taken out by disgruntled, unemployed, pissed off people.

- NCSU

 

That's why California is a s**t hole of a State. Go figure....it's run by Liberals. I don't blame these folks....it's the idiots who vote for them and their State laws.

 

Actually, my city votes conservative! Imagine how bad it is in the big liberal cities!

For a long time, the city had a '3 at 50' retirement plan. Basically, at any time after age 50, you could get 3% of your LAST salary, x the number of years you worked for the city.

So if you worked 30 years for the city and retired at age 55, you got 90% of your LAST salary (adjusted for COLA), for life. Lots of people worked only a year or two as department heads, got big raises, then retired and got retirement pay based on the department head's job.

And like I said, if you got disabled as a public safety employee, your pension is not taxable. Lots of fire and police supervisors have apparently got disabled their last 3 months at their desk jobs. But medical records are confidential...

But let the deadbeats burn, lol.

Sorry for getting off track - The public servant calling people deadbeats just stuck in my craw a few pages back. I kind of hate being reminded I'm almost 50 and will probably never retire, largely thanks to the huge tax burdens I face.

 

Those sound like some plum pensions.
When I retired from the federal public service, they take the average of your last 6 years, and then base that amount on the number of years of service.
(overtime and extra pay doesn't count, only base salary as per the collective agreement)

So say you retired from where I worked, and you had in 25 years, and your last 6 years were:
$71,000
$68,000
$66,000
$66,000
$62,000
$57,000 they would then base your pension on the 6-year average being $65,000.
25 years x 2% a year means your entitled to a 50% pension based on $65,000 or $32,500 per year.

Those pensions you quoted Dave are pretty sweet, I know they are heads of departments, but still. In my next life I'm moving to merca, screw this Canada crap and our crappy little pensions

 

I think I'm going to invest in guns, ammo and books.

- NCSU

 

You're too late. They scaled it back to 'crappy little' 2% a couple of years ago when the economy crashed. Everyone in the door before then still gets their 3%, though.

The lists I posted above were culled from the top 10 city and top 10 county retirees, so they did not show all the cops or firefighters making over $100,000. Another article showed we have five or six retired police chiefs that are each collecting $100,000+ per year in pension.

Of course the government employee unions fought tooth and nail to prevent the newspaper from getting this info.

Sorry I'm a little pissy, but I got my property tax bill yesterday.

 

NCSU, off-duty cops are expected to carry by most agencies because it, in effect, it double/triples your police force; even though they are only expected to intervene in life threatening/felony incidents.

Police officers are also in danger of running into folks they've sent to the big house who might be more than a bit resentful about that.

They also get more firearm training than a lot of the Average Joes. NOTE that I am NOT saying they have the MORE skills. For the most part they do have more training/experience in shoot/don't shoot decision making. I for one am more concerned about the decision making than the shooting skills.

Just my $.02

 

I got no problem with that, but I do think that if they are off duty and see someone speeding then they shouldn't be able to pull them over if they're not on the clock.

 

I'm not aware of a single jurisdiction that allows that. Now an off-duty cop can report a misdemeanor they've witnessed, have on on-duty cop show up and write the ticket/make the arrest with the off-duty signing/filing as complainant; IN TEXAS. Your state laws may vary.

 

back to the origanil post -

the fire fighters should have put out the fire and billed his insurance company thats how it's done in the real world

i'm a volunteer for 20 years and i'd be ashamed if i was one of them

community service does not end at the edge of town no matter how hillbilly you are

 

Then shouldn't firefighters be expected to act in the same capacity? Even though this guy wasn't paid up, they turned their backs on a citizen in need. His pets died due to the firefighters inactions, and the man lost his house. I'm sure the owner might harbor a wee bit of resentment towards those firefighters.

You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjjF55M8JQ

Notice no lights flashing on the car, no uniform on the cop, the only thing showing was his badge down by his holster.

The kicker was, the State charged the rider with felony wiretapping charges because he video tapped the cop. Charges were later dropped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYuhwmcOBc

- NCSU