I don't believe in over taxation but I think the government needs to support the greater good of the people as a whole.

Our government needs to be more than a means to support war.

The reality is that as corporations have relocated work to 3rd world nations seeking low wages and the ability to pollute as they choose, they are taking from the people.

Instead of praising them with lower taxes, we should penalize them and take back those ill gotten gains.

Lower the taxes for companies that keep jobs here and create good jobs. That is great but those are few and far between.

 

So if I get what you want it is total lack of moral control, let the degenerants run freely, but control all or work laws, tax us and give it to the degenerants so they can make more laws that take from the producers. Sounds like a good plan.

 

Have you ever worked in industry? Have you ever had to hire whole departments just to keep up with the HR reports, the pollution reports, the census reports, the research and development reports, the tax reports and on and on. I didn;t think so. This burden has a lot to do with outsourcing out of the country. I know from personal experience. Most of those regulations come from Democrats, by the way.

 

Great post Bluejay.

And today I find this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...c=nl_natlalert

As usual, it's do as i say, not as i do with the gov't.

 

Bluejay, you're using real-world examples from industry. Their minds are numb to the reality of such thoughts...didn't you know that?

 

Yep, but I got to thinking of all the useless reporting and could not control myself.

 

What i love most about these forums is that all of you liberal haters are unable to have a well articulated and intelligent debate so you resort to name calling (obamabot) or other petty remarks (see green98's post above and the many others just like it in this thread and all the others).

Anyone that has a different opinion than you is immediately a moron and a follower.You are not capable of hearing anything from anyone that has a different opinion of you, you are nothing but a bunch of close minded fools, and ya know what they say..Never argue with a drunk or a fool.

 

too bad she paid for all her personal expenses with her own money. OH DUDE DRAG.

it's quite pathetic that people such as yourself try to take someone consoling a friend and try to turn it into something horrible and scandalous.

 

The penguin is from Illinois, Obama's home state.

Intelligent debate does not compute with most liberals since they are entrenched into their "let's take from the workers and give to the lazies" mentality.

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and if he still refuses to fish, let him not be a leach on society.

That's my philosophy, which was also the philosophy of the patriarchs of this nation.

Don't be an acolyte.

 

yes. being from his home state MUST mean I'm just a follower.

Saying all liberals believe that people should be given a free ride is BS.

I've worked since i was 15 years old and never taken a single gov't handout even when I've been down and out so don't even try to tell me about hard work and not being a leach on society.

 

Bluejay, I know exactly what you're talking about. But lest we forget, all of these piles of paper (that nobody ever reads) are "for our own protection." I wonder when somebody will start protecting us from our own government?

 

Ok so you don't want any regulation?

So it would have been ok for BP to say "oops our well blew out...oh well" and just left oil to gush into the Gulf forever?

Would it be ok for waste companies to dump crap into the Great Lakes because proper disposal cuts into shareholder profits?

So what if some miners die? We can always get more.

Yes we have regulations because we want to protect our environment. If you poison our water and air, our country will go to crap. We also have labor rules because without them rogue companies would have workers working in death traps for $2 a day.

Instead of compromising our standards, we need to make the rest of the world that does trade with us to live up to our standards.

Does anyone on here realize the majority of our medicines are manufactured overseas. This seems to be industrial strength stupid to me. Talk about giving the world a wide open door to wipe us out!

Deregulation may benefit many businesses but for those rogue ones they have to be there. Too many people seek every chance to make a buck legally or illegally. When they cheat they hurt people and do serious damage.

Referring to SS...what do you do for the disabled? Some people can never work and have no means to support themselves otherwise.

Considering that approx half of all filers don't pay a penny in fed income tax, it seems there are many without much money. Not everyone can have high paying jobs. Someone has to do the crappy ones. Not every poor person is lazy and drug addicted.

 

Hypocrite much?

"Quoted"
1. You liberal haters are unable to have articulate and intelligent debate
2. You are not capable of hearing anything
3. You are nothing but a bunch of close minded fools
4. Never argue with a drunk fool

Please...

 

In a free society, people would sue BP for letting oil gush and they would quickly get to fixing it (which is what happened).

In a free society, people would be able to own all the land/water. Companies could not dump on others private property without being sued. (This actually happens alot and the victims always seem to come out on top)

If miners die... they signed knowing the risks.

In a free society, companies and workers would negotiate more freely what the pay and benefits would be for the service they would provide. You don't seem to understand that supply/demand applies to the labor force as well.

Can't force other countries to abide by our standards.

Meds from other countries, so what?

Hurt and sick people can get help from charity, churches, and other private means. The cost of living would also be much cheaper without all these government programs we have to fund.

 

So according to several liberals on this board, if a conservative is opposed to too much government, it therefore proves all conservatives want no government at all.

Pah-leaze. My kids can understand that wanting less of something is not the same as wanting none of something. Is it REALLY that hard for liberals to get, or are you defaulting to childish pouting?