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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FX41
Serioiulsy, single handedly lost the Vikings chance of SB in 09.
Would you like to explain how he single handedly lost that game?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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PawPaw, the street goes both ways. Phantom penalties huh, just like that pass interference call in OT where the viking defender didn't even touch the saints receiver and the flag was thrown. That was pathetic.
They were just trying to make up for the bogus calls on the Saint's in the first half!! Vikings offensive line was holding 2 or 3 times after Farve was dropped and the refs wouldn't call any of 'em. Got to give it to Brett for hanging in there and staying in the game. Old guys are tough!!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
I know, that I will be extremely lonesome in my opinion, but I don't know how anybody can call a quarterback with only one championship in 19 years and more interceptions by anybody in the history of the game, one of the best quarterbacks? Serioiulsy, single handedly lost the Vikings chance of SB in 09, tanked the Jets season in 08 and single handedly lost the Packers chances in 07.

I understand that he has a lot of records, that means a lot to most of you i'm sure, but there is not a single player out there who would rather have records than win championships. Championships are the paramount of any football career and Brett Favre has as many as Trent Dilfer.

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I totally agree.
Brett is an excellent QB. He has a flare for making exciting plays. He can scramble and find a receiver with the best of 'em. That said, that is also his downfall. How many times has he heaved up a pass on the run, only to have it intercepted? His last possession in his last two conference championships, have ended with him throwing an interception. That's the nature of the beast. Take enough chances and some you'll make, some you won't.
And I think people put too much attention on Brett and over look his receivers. Granted, he puts the ball in the vicinity, but those guys make some awesome catches. That touchdown to end the game against San Francisco earlier in the season, was more on the catch than the throw. The way that guy kept his feet in the endzone while diving for the ball was incredible. But all you heard afterwords was Brett Favre this and Brett Favre that.
I never had any opinion on the guy till he started his offseason baloney of 'will come back or won't he?'. He's played that game for what, 3 or 4 or five seasons. Then he finally retires, only to return, conveniently, after training camp.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JNC995
Would you like to explain how he single handedly lost that game?
By throwing a drive ending interception, cross field, cross body, when he could have ran it about ten yards into a long distance field goal position. By no means does that mean Longwell would have made it, but Brett would have put the Vikings in as best of a position has he could have given the circumstances, not turned that football over.

Yeah I know AP fumbled it, along with Harvin and Berrian, but be realistic, since I seem to understand that you are a Brett Farve fan, think about it like this, if he, on that exact same play, would have thrown a cross-body, cross-field touchdown pass, you would be singing his praises, and thinking that Brett Farve single handeldy won them that game. It just so happens he made a pass that most rookie quarterbacks would not, that was picked off.

While I'm on the subject fo rookie quarterbacks, I would just like to mention that the same basic team that had Farve as a quarterback last year, and didn't make the playoffs, not only made the playoffs this year, but made it all the way to the AFC championship game.....with a rookie quarterback.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
, ...I would just like to mention that the same basic team that had Farve as a quarterback last year, and didn't make the playoffs, not only made the playoffs this year, but made it all the way to the AFC championship game.....with a rookie quarterback.
Excellent point.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
By throwing a drive ending interception, cross field, cross body, when he could have ran it about ten yards into a long distance field goal position. By no means does that mean Longwell would have made it, but Brett would have put the Vikings in as best of a position has he could have given the circumstances, not turned that football over.

Yeah I know AP fumbled it, along with Harvin and Berrian, but be realistic, since I seem to understand that you are a Brett Farve fan, think about it like this, if he, on that exact same play, would have thrown a cross-body, cross-field touchdown pass, you would be singing his praises, and thinking that Brett Farve single handeldy won them that game. It just so happens he made a pass that most rookie quarterbacks would not, that was picked off.

While I'm on the subject fo rookie quarterbacks, I would just like to mention that the same basic team that had Farve as a quarterback last year, and didn't make the playoffs, not only made the playoffs this year, but made it all the way to the AFC championship game.....with a rookie quarterback.
I fail to see Farve, let alone any QB running 10 yards on this play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUigYU2B-TQ

Also, I'm pretty sure there was another 59 min and 50 secs to where other players on the team had a chance to make a difference. What about def. missing a 3rd down stop, or a receiver missing a catch to keep the drive alive. Not to mention fumbles. You can't base an ENTIRE game on ONE play.
If Brett Farve would of made that pass, I wouldn't say he single handedly won them the game. Maybe in highschool you can put the whole game on one player, but not much past that. Now maybe the off or def.
Comparing Sanchez to Favre is like comparing Apples (Farve) to a s*** sandwich.

Also, FWIW, I'm not a huge Favre fan. I think he is an awesome QB, but I'm a Peterson fan.
 

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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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I haven't been able to look at a sports page since that game -- it's so frustrating to lose to a team you ran up and down the field on the entire game. If the Saints had beat us, I could handle it fine, but we simply beat ourselves with turnovers......
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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I haven't been able to look at a sports page since that game -- it's so frustrating to lose to a team you ran up and down the field on the entire game. If the Saints had beat us, I could handle it fine, but we simply beat ourselves with turnovers......
That is why the game has to be played. If you look at the Saints, they have done that more than once this year. It is not what you do between the goallines that counts, it's how many times you cross the goalline.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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I agree with you ddellwo. I agree with Bluejay as well. I just don't see the Saints doing that to the Colts. They haven't played a team as polished like the Colts all season long.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
By throwing a drive ending interception, cross field, cross body, when he could have ran it about ten yards into a long distance field goal position. By no means does that mean Longwell would have made it, but Brett would have put the Vikings in as best of a position has he could have given the circumstances, not turned that football over.

Yeah I know AP fumbled it, along with Harvin and Berrian, but be realistic, since I seem to understand that you are a Brett Farve fan, think about it like this, if he, on that exact same play, would have thrown a cross-body, cross-field touchdown pass, you would be singing his praises, and thinking that Brett Farve single handeldy won them that game. It just so happens he made a pass that most rookie quarterbacks would not, that was picked off.

While I'm on the subject fo rookie quarterbacks, I would just like to mention that the same basic team that had Farve as a quarterback last year, and didn't make the playoffs, not only made the playoffs this year, but made it all the way to the AFC championship game.....with a rookie quarterback.

%100 right.. well said.. couldnt have said it better myself.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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While I'm on the subject fo rookie quarterbacks, I would just like to mention that the same basic team that had Farve as a quarterback last year, and didn't make the playoffs, not only made the playoffs this year, but made it all the way to the AFC championship game.....with a rookie quarterback.
The Jets were gifted the playoffs. Two teams laid down in their last two games. Otherwise they would not have been in the playoffs. The Jets under Farve did not have that luxury, so not really a good argument from my perspective. Plus this year's Jets team did not have Mangini at the helm. MHO.

Since 1980, I can think of one maybe two quarterbacks that have taken that physical beating and stayed in for every play. The botched hand-off at the Saints 10 yard line with :56 left in the first half could well be considered the difference in the game. A 25 yard field goal is a lot easier than a 52 yard try.
 
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