60 votes, no matter how you get them...
#31
Many of the surgeons in India trained in the US... Just FYI.
There's a reason most wealthy foreigners come to the US for surgery.
When you are nickle and diming or don't have insurance, you can go to some to the "Resort Hospitals" overseas and get surgeries; esp cosmetic surgeries, at a cut rate. Many of those surgeons fly in from the US and stay for an extended period then fly back.
I find it ironic that the very people who say our government is the problem then go on to say you get the best health care in our highly regulated medical market.
#32
I'm not the only one who knows that some of the most skilled surgeons practice in India. This is common knowledge. But go do your own research, I don't want to hold your hand. The point being that our healthcare system is really broken, too expensive and the results are sub-standard.
Some did, some didn't. What's your point?
Correction: Some wealthy foreiners come to the U.S. for surgery.
Many? Do you care to provide a source and some numbers? Generally, U.S. surgeons can make more money here so unless they are using a technique that is not yet approved by the FDA there is not often a lot of incentive to practice over-seas.
I find it ironic that the very people who say our government is the problem then go on to say you get the best health care in our highly regulated medical market.
Some did, some didn't. What's your point?
Correction: Some wealthy foreiners come to the U.S. for surgery.
Many? Do you care to provide a source and some numbers? Generally, U.S. surgeons can make more money here so unless they are using a technique that is not yet approved by the FDA there is not often a lot of incentive to practice over-seas.
I find it ironic that the very people who say our government is the problem then go on to say you get the best health care in our highly regulated medical market.
American physicians can go to places like Mexico, Thailand, etc and perform surgeries because the overhead is so low. The hospital employees are paid dirt, the regulations are not controlled by the Joint Commission like in the US, Malpractice is a fraction of that in the US; shall I go on????
Keep on sticking your foot in your mouth in multiple threads... it's quite entertaining. I'll keep calling you out when you post something that stinks worse than the dead skunk I passed on my way to work today.
#33
I didn't say Indian surgeon's are better than the average US surgeon.
I'll let you re-read what I wrote and see if you can figure out how you mischaracterized what I said.
#34
You duck and dodge better than Ali!
#35
I have two highly respected orthopaedic surgeons in my family. One retired and one actively practicing. Surgeons in all specialties regularly receive updated training by leaders in their field. For example, to learn the latest joint resurfacing techniques, etc. The leaders in the latest, most successful techniques are often Indian surgeons. In fact, some of the most successful new techniques are not even approved by the FDA in the US yet. So you might have to go to India if you want the best and you don't want to wait for FDA approval.
In otherwords, I heard it from an orthopaedic surgeon. I'm not sure why you take issue with this. It is a well-known fact that a lot of the top surgeons are Indian.
In otherwords, I heard it from an orthopaedic surgeon. I'm not sure why you take issue with this. It is a well-known fact that a lot of the top surgeons are Indian.
#36
You have a lot of experience with having surgery done in India, Real? Musta gone there to have your head removed from the "Dark Place". Well guess what, the surgery was not successful- even those top notch Indian doctors weren't able to perform that miracle!
#37
You're saying two different things now.
Originally Posted by Real
Correct. IMO, a lot of the surgeons in India are even more skilled than the average surgeon in the U.S.
#38
If this, or any of the things that you say claiming are "facts" are, with the advent of the world wide web, you should be able to verify a well known fact.
You're saying two different things now.
First, you tell us that it is your opinion that it's the surgeons "in" India that are even more skilled than the average US surgeon. Then you tell us that it's a well know fact, that a lot of top surgeons "are" Indian.
You're saying two different things now.
First, you tell us that it is your opinion that it's the surgeons "in" India that are even more skilled than the average US surgeon. Then you tell us that it's a well know fact, that a lot of top surgeons "are" Indian.
Mind reading... You have to be reading my mind! If you poke long enough,they always slip up. It's hard to remember what you've said when u don't know of what you speak.
#39
I don't know why you are taking issue with it. It's well known by those in the industry. I think you just like to argue.
#41
If you had been paying attention you would know that reforming healthcare is key to solving future deficits.
90% of Canadians approve of their current single-payer system. Maybe we should move towards that popular system instead of the watered-down version the conservatives have foisted on us.
I'm sure we could do better at it than the Canadians as we have a higher per capita GDP and spend far more on healthcare even though the Canadian system leads to fewer deaths/longer lives.
http://medicare.ca/wp-content/upload...nanos-poll.pdf
90% of Canadians approve of their current single-payer system. Maybe we should move towards that popular system instead of the watered-down version the conservatives have foisted on us.
I'm sure we could do better at it than the Canadians as we have a higher per capita GDP and spend far more on healthcare even though the Canadian system leads to fewer deaths/longer lives.
http://medicare.ca/wp-content/upload...nanos-poll.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...ve_health_care
#42
I'm an old poster here...have been for years and havent posted in a few months, but this Real guy made me log in. You guys quit messing with him, he's beginning to look like an idiot.
Oh and Real, I didnt see where you addressed a single governement-run entity that was run as well as a privately-owned one. Any response to that, or are you going to duck/dodge that one too?
And what the heck is this? ------>
Oh and Real, I didnt see where you addressed a single governement-run entity that was run as well as a privately-owned one. Any response to that, or are you going to duck/dodge that one too?
And what the heck is this? ------>
#43
I'm an old poster here...have been for years and havent posted in a few months, but this Real guy made me log in. You guys quit messing with him, he's beginning to look like an idiot.
Oh and Real, I didnt see where you addressed a single governement-run entity that was run as well as a privately-owned one. Any response to that, or are you going to duck/dodge that one too?
And what the heck is this? ------>
Oh and Real, I didnt see where you addressed a single governement-run entity that was run as well as a privately-owned one. Any response to that, or are you going to duck/dodge that one too?
And what the heck is this? ------>
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#45
The bill that will passed shortly is not for government run health-care. That is why those who are left of center are so enraged. Health care will continue to be provided privately, private insurance companies will administer it, private doctors will still answer to the insurance companies and the people will still need to shop around and decide which insurance company to go with. The bill does offer some nice consumer protections but falls short in terms of the kind of reform we actually need. But that's what happens when you have private insurance and drug lobbyists swarming all over capitol hill.
A government run entity that was run as well as a private entity? It depends upon which private entity you are referring to. Merril Lynch? Goldman Sachs? Morgan Stanley? My private Blue Cross medical insurance? The private local hospital? AIG?
One time the IRS sent me a check for $478,000.00. It was made out to me and I knew they were good for it. Did I cash it? No, it was a mistake.
But government run healthcare is not on the table. People are so misinformed by the right-wing it's not even funny.