When no-one else can see what is really happening may be its time to consider you may be the one out of touch. There are some pretty intelligent people on this site that are worldly and do understand what is happening around them. Usually if most people agree on something there is some basis of fact involved. We would be happy to have you visit Canada and change your perspective. If your mind is open to what you see. Great country. A little chilly in winter though. You will learn what a snottsicle is.

 

So just to clarify your position, your suggesting that my government is brainwashing me into believing my country is better than it really is. This is your preferred argument over the other option that your government is feeding you lies so that you dont want to upset the status quo, and perhaps elect someone like Obama or maybe fix your healthcare system so that CEO's of HMO's stop making their BILLIONS of dollars a year?

 

What do I back that up with??

Michael Clemente Senior VP of Fox News stated "Its astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming. It seems self-serving on their part."

According to a news article printed in the October 12th, 2009 edition of the New York Times Fox News argues that its news hours are from 9 am - 4 pm and 6 pm - 8 pm. The rest is opinon programming. Soooooooo....

6 am -9 am fox & friends..NOT news.
4 pm -5 pm Neal Cavuto..NOT news.
5 pm -6 pm Beck NOT news.
8pm - 9 pm & 11 pm - 12 AM O'Reilly..NOT news.
9 pm - 10 pm Hannity..NOT news.
10 pm - 11 pm Van Susteren..NOT news. This according to Fox news themselves.

The above listed shows..the ones that are featured in promos on how fair and balanced Fox news is are NOT news. These people who are all most people ever think about when they think about Fox news are NOT news.

So much for your unbiased "news" sources, when even FOX News themselves says they are opinion shows and NOT NEWS!!!!!.

 

Yes and no. Your government is trying to convince you that your way is superior and the libral media here is trying to convince me that socialized medicine would be good here too. And our current communistic government is attempting to force that plan on us. Yes, it's a sensitive spot with me because our current president is unconstitutional. You have to be born a naturalized citizen to run this country.

If I die I don't want it to be because my government decided my life wasn't worth saving.

The health insurance CEO's make billions because they are at the top of the food chain. Same with the guys on Wall St. The guy building cars probably can't even tie his shoe properly so he doesn't deserve as good of healthcare. In Canada, even the poor people can get operated on for cancer or what not.

 

Well, I don't care what you call it but if it talks like news and smells like news and is fair and balanced then I call it news.

My point is, they are not afraid to tell it how it is. Most other stations are just parroting what Obama wants them to say and as I've already pointed out, he's not even a legitimate president.

 

Nevermind

 

Best decisions you've made today! I thought the same thing.

 

That's OK, I was skeptical of having a discussion with someone who doesn't watch Fox news. IMO, they generally don't see what's REALLY happening in the world today.

 

so because someone is poor or less fortunate they don't deserve to live a healthy? Maybe they couldn't afford to go to college and get a diploma and make good. Stay the **** in the U.S. you ignorant **** sucking ****ing bastard.

 

do you know why the Americans have the STUPIDEST population of any developed country. It's because your government WANTS you to be stupid so you guys elect people like Obama for president. They don't want you to know whats going on in the real world and obviously it is working judging by your posts.

 

Okay ******* you know what I WAS going to say? You say you believe so much in your constitution? You know the one that made the USA what it is TODAY? It says that every man is EQUAL!

I am pretty sure your view of only the most elite and wealthy getting health care FLIES in the face of the constitution, however people are making too much money to change that piggy bank.

I hope that one day a family member suffers from a disability that makes it hard for THEM to get medical care. That way you can see what other people in the US are dealing with.




FYI: everyone else I will continue to monitor this thread but REAL will be on my block list so please excuse if he goes on a bit of a rant, I will be unable to see it. Lets not derail this relatively great thread.

 

Let me throw in two more cents. I'm a dual citizen living in Canada. Born and raised in Texas I also lived in NM and Tn before moving to Canada in 1999. Here are some things I've noticed since living here:

Health care: Only difference I've experienced and witnessed is when leaving a doctor, clinic or hospital here in Canada you just walk out the door. Nothing to sign, nothing to pay. I have payed for flu shots in the past but only because I'm not high risk. I've not noticed any less treatment for me or anyone I know because of our "socialized medicine". Heck my mother-in-law fell and broke her hip a few years ago and although she was a ripe age of 92 they fixed her right up. She lived four more years before slipping away but I won't try to blame our healthcare for that.

Wages: In general I would say they're higher here but so are cost of goods and taxes.

Weather: Took me awhile to figure out wtf that white stuff was but now I kind of like having all four seasons.

Other: I never thought I would turn the porch light on before walking outside just to see if a bear was waiting on me. Actually I only started doing that last year after my friend's son (12 yrs old) bagged his first bear just over the hill behind out house. Also never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would be ice fishing for bass but I do it every winter now.

People: People here are just like in the States. You have good ones and bad ones.

I like it here a lot and will probably live here until I die but who knows. Right now I feel I have the best of both worlds. I live 10 minutes from the border so I drive to Porthill to get cheap(er) gas every two weeks and check my PO box there. Anything I buy on the net I have delivered there since USPS is twice as fast and way cheaper than getting it shipped here. That's something that I will say sucks here. Canada Post is a sorry excuse for a mail service.

Every few months the wife and I take a trip to Coeur de' Alene to do serious shopping. She goes to Bonners Ferry which is closer every couple of weeks and stocks up on certain groceries. Some things are way cheaper in the US.

That's my two cents. I've lived on both sides and honestly can't say one is better than the other. Both sides are great in their own ways. Maybe it's a good thing I live on the border because it would be hard to choose if I had to.

 

Stop holding back, come right out and tell him how you really feel, there's no point in sugar-coating it.

 

Great post ... and great thread (not including the obvious exception)

 

It doesn't matter what is sounds like...its NOT NEWS..its OPINION..try looking them up in the dictionary. Just because I sing in the shower doesn't make it music.

And like Fox News didn't just parrot what the Bush administration wanted them too I suppose??

Why don't you just come out and admit it, your guy lost and you're just being poor losers.