Tenet did not tell Bush what he wanted to hear.

I would suggest you read Tenet's own book, "At The Center of the Storm."

Then when you're done with that read, "War and Decision" by Douglas Feith. He exposes a few of Tenets' lies.

Even John Bolton shows Colin Powell and the mistakes he made. Colin Powell left plenty of wiggle-room politically so that he could look good if things went well in Iraq, but dis-connect himself if things went wrong.

 

Really! All of them? Gosh! The durned Republicans must be total incompetents then. Can't even get one of their own inside those secret walls.

Don't suppose the authors of those books you cite are "right-wing leaning" are they? Believe EVERYTHING you read?

- Jack

 

With your logic everything written by Democrats is true, but you don't see that.

Don't believe your getting the full story from the evening news.

When several different authors have documented facts, and George Tenet has NO FOOTNOTES whatsoever in his book, you gotta lean to the ones with de-classified notes and memos.

 

Didn't say all of them in my post. It is common knowledge in political circles that a Republican president has to beware of Foggy Bottom.

 

If you would read the books, it would tell you why. But who wants to read a book right? Thats only for nerds.

What do you believe a WMD is? Do you think chemical rockets that were used to kill 200,000 kurds 'might' be WMD's? If you would get some books to read and stop listening to keith olberman, you might learn some stuff that you never knew. All the facts say there were WMD's and many more materials for WMD's that were found. The only ones that say there were not are the ones ignorant to the facts and open minded to the liberal nightly news.

 

Iraq had WMDs, they were in the form of Chemical and Biological, not Nuclear so they don't count right? What you stupid libs forget is that Bush didn't invade Iraq, the UN did. But like usual the other contries fail to see an action through to the end. All the other countires bailed pretty quik with the exeption of England and some Canucks, but now they too are gone, leaving America to stay and clean up. Well we did, Iraq, although still in turmoil has a functioning government with a leader elected by they people, not some crazy dictator that gases his own people.

And Jack, Clinton got impeached bacause he broke the friggin law!!!!!! He freakin impeached himself and admitted it. Thats what you think is the republicans "stooping to the dems level" He should have been impeached. Bush did not do anything worth even thinking about impeachment. God all you libs **** me off.

 

They actually did have nuclear, just not assembled. If someone is going to come check my house for guns. I am going to take them apart and hide them in pieces throughout the house. If they find a piece here or there, I can just remanufacture what they took later... Saddam thought the same way.

 

Liar is a harsh term, so let's look at it. For something to bhe a lie, it must not only be wrong, but it must be KNOW by the speaker to be wrong at the time he speaks it. Bush's "lies" were believed to be true by every intelligence service in the world - UN, Israeli, Chinese, Russian, French, German, Italian, Japanese, ad infinitum. They had been spoken by Democrat leaders in both houses of Congress and the White House. They were admitted by none other than Saddam Hussein himself, who threatened to use them on us and equipped his armed forces with hazmat suits prior to the outbreak of hostilities. Are we beginning to see a trend here? Perhaps Bush didn't lie. Further, there is a large amount of credible evidence that Iraq's WMD stockpile was covertly moved to Syria in the weeks leading up to the invasion (while France and Germany were stalling in every way possible). Ther are sources who purport to be able to tell where they are stored now, most saying the Bekah Valley. So Bush's "lie" was not the existence of WMDs, but rather that that statement had been in error. It is easy to chant slogans. It is easy to be enchanted by the nightly network news. It is easy to believe that everyone with whom you disagree is evil. It is easy to turn off your brain and go to ball games, races, video parlors, movies, casinos, et al. Paying attention, following the progression of events, reading between the lines, knowing a few pertinent facts - these are not quite so easy. The outcome of too many elections at all levels in the good ol' USofA bear this out. Truth is at times elusive. BUT IT IS NOT FUNGIBLE. Don't be like so many nowdays who will not coountenance the possibility that they could be wrong. If you never admit you are wrong, you never learn anything new. Want proof? Look no farther than Thomas Alva Edison. Learn, grow, improve - and quit chanting mindless slogans. America and you will be better for it.

 

The UN gave him nearly 12 years to hide them.


Exactly. 12 years of useless UN sanctions and cat and mouse games with inspectors gave him plenty of time to hide things.

 

This is very clear to me now how the idiot got into office. Everything he does turns into bushs fault and about bushs mistakes. Every president has that story, when is obama responsible for his own. I think the one point I feel about this is many presidents screw us and hurt us but no president that I can remember has actually had the ***** to turn this country into something it was not founded for. Whether anyone likes it or not the countries rules are clearly written by its creaters. if someone doesn't like the rules they should go live somewhere else, not change the rules. This guys doing things to this country that are unfixable. Once they happen this country is something different for good. I dont think Clinton catching head in the oval office, or bush not being able to find weapons that are hidden or destroyed have changed the constitution, obama promised change and instead of that scaring people too many people thought it was good change... better think again. I don't understand how the persons running for office don't have to have their past more scrutinized before being allowed to enter office. Its seems an awful important position to me. Its pretty clear to see what obama really is and really stands for. Another thing is why did every president before him show an actuall birth certificate and he doesn't have to. It all makes no sense how we all can be so stupid to just let some person into our oval office like that.
Another thing is when 9/11 happened every american wanted to fight back. I dont think bush was really going to the right place but either way saddam was a terrible person, and thats the past. If obama was president that day what would he have done? Somehow I feel he feels the same for our country as the people who flew those planes directly into those buildings. If you dont think so thats fine, but your ignorant. We are now living for right now. How long before some country is going to be going after obama... just think about it.. once the change happens it will never ever be able to go back. Our country has a role to play in the world and its starting to show to the world that we are becoming something even they don't like. Obama is going to destroy us to the core if he doesn't sit down, read the constitution and follow it in his heart, which is obvious he never will. There is a difference between stupidity and ignorance. He plays on people every day for their ignorance. His true colors are and have been very easy to see, everyone chose to ignore them just like those hijackers were ignored by airport security on 9/11. Somethings we need to learn to not turn our backs to, our country depends on it. literally.