So the lives of these three "innocent persons" are less valuable than a "normal" one and so it is OK to kill them. According to Norm an embryo is a person.

 

Again: Has it ever turned out to be something else? Read my post again.

He already knows.

 

As does mine, at a school dedicated to them. It is definitely frowned upon to use MR. Mentally challenged is preferred.

 

Did you know 'separation of church and state' is never found in the Constitution as the Founding Fathers wrote it? Even when it was made into the the Constitution it did not mean what you think it means. Separation of Church and State was at first written to keep government from interfering with religion. Nothing more, nothing less.
The founding fathers founded this country on Christian values and you can watch our country go down the drain the more and more it pulls from that. But that is another topic....

I would love to answer your questions but I can't spend all day trying to type an answer to 100 questions at once that are all completely different. Maybe if you want to ask 1 at a time, that would be easier for us.

 

A lot of people have no understanding of separation. It goes back to the way England used to be ruled. A king or queen took advice from a bishop or other religious leader as to how to rule the people. In some cases the monarch was just a puppet for the church. It got to the point that they dictated only one religion for the whole kingdom and you were persecuted for practicing any other or speaking out against the one choice. State affairs and church affairs are now separate but it does not mean they are exclusive of one another. This country was founded on Christian principles including the freedom to not be a Christian if that is your choice.
I am a Christian, raised as a Catholic but do not agree with everything they say. I think the Pope is given too much power and that Christians only need the teachings of Jesus and not some pseudo king of the church to tell us how to live. That is a topic for another thread though.

 

OGTerror
Many of the things mentioned in the New Testament were only there as witness, that the prophecy of the Old Testament was being fulfilled.
When you read the New Testament try doing it with an open mind, and only listen to the words Jesus spoke. You will get a whole different understanding of the message Jesus was teaching. There is not a single passage, that I can remember, that would make a person feel unworthy.
Luke is my favorite book, as it was very well written.


I'm really surprised you got hate Pm's. I didn't know that was a regular thing here.

 

OG, If you got hate PMs then forward them to a Mod. That kind of activity is not tolerated here. We are all adults and should treat each other with respect.

 

If what I'm about to say offends anyone, I apologize in advance.

Religion and/or the belief in a all powerfull being is a farce. Religion was basically started by some king or pharoh or emporer who figured out it was easier to control the masses thru fear than thru force (armies, police forces) the tool they used to control thru fear was religion and the masses were ignorant enough to believe it. Over the centuries our leaders have perpetuated this farce that to even this day 90+% of society are still stuck in this fog of religion.
Thankfully, people are starting to find thier way out of the fog, and begining to see the light and are now realizing that it was all just a bunch of BS.

There will allways be religious zealots out there who will try anything to convince others they are right and everyone else is wrong. Now when one of those zealots get into a position of power, well thats how wars get started.

Thousands of years ago, there used to be storytellers who traveled from town to town singing songs and telling stories to the townsfolk in exchange for food and water. Eventually these storytellers began to write these stories down on paper, and then someone combined these stories into a book. These books were eventually combined into a lager book that we now call the bible. After hundreds of generations of storytellers altering and twisting their stories due to mistranslation or for their own agenda, these stories now have very strong religious overtones.

 

Oh FWIW.. the term is Intellectually and Developmentally Disabled.

 

Some king or pharoah. Give us more information so that we can discuss. I'm always interested in learning more about history.

 

Do you not find it odd that in every culture and sociaety of man that has been discovered, there is reference to a higher being? Not only that, there are similarities in the beliefs, thousands of years apart.

 

Don't know, never gave it much thought. I'm not really into religion that much.

 

IMO the search is part of what we are deigned for. The ability of a higher form of life to control our surroundings.


On a different note
As humans we can understand four dimensions. Yet our own science tells us, there are many more dimensions. But in our infinite wisdom, we sit at our computers and say there is no higher intelligent life form in the universe. For people that are not so smart, we are kind of arrogant. Don't you think?

We are a tiny part of something much larger than we can even imagine. At the same time, we say there is nothing greater than we ourselves.

 

No offense taken. That is your opinion and you are free to share it.

 

Not trying to dog you but, if you say you never really gave religion much thought... Does it really give you the power to say they are wrong.