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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dlenkewich
Why?

I don't believe in God, but make sure you understand, personally, I wouldn't care enough to want/need a religous statement or statue removed, but still, why?

I'm sure if it said "In buddah we trust", you'd all say quite the opposite. Since when is it patriotic to love God? In any country?
Besides the USSR, what civilization didn't have God in some form or another at its core

Buddha was a very enlightened individual.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dlenkewich
Since when is it patriotic to love God? In any country?
Since 1814, when Francis Scott Key used the words "And this be our motto: In God is our trust." which is our Nation's anthem.

Since 1954 when Eisenhower declared that "under God" be added to the Pledge of Allegiance (to the U.S.) which millions of kids used to recite every day during school.

Just two examples...
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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It seems like some people need an American history lesson.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MOford21
I dont think God should have to be associated with the single most evil causing object on the planet
Money isn't the single most evil causing object on the planet. You're thinking about the love of money, not the money itself.
Oh, and I think that p***y is the leading cause of evil.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wrobo23
Since 1814, when Francis Scott Key used the words "And this be our motto: In God is our trust." which is our Nation's anthem.

Since 1954 when Eisenhower declared that "under God" be added to the Pledge of Allegiance (to the U.S.) which millions of kids used to recite every day during school.

Just two examples...
I voted no, because I think it should stay, but let's not forget that the reason we started this country was to have religious freedom, not so we could be a Christian nation. I am a Christian, I am an ordained minister, but I do not think it should be forced on anyone.
jk007, if you think that people who vote no should leave the country, then you should give up every one of your freedoms, people die in wars to protect those opinions of people, whether they agree with you or not. That's what this country is about, freedom to feel however the hell we want about whatever.
wrobo23, nice sources, but don't forget that The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, written in 1779 by Thomas Jefferson, proclaimed: "No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities." I like Eisenhower and all, but Thomas Jefferson was a lot closer to being a founding father of the country.
Also don't forget the first amendment of our constitution, which gives us a freedom of religion and a free exercise of religion.
Labnerd, you're right, taking prayer out of schools was a religious act and therefore illegal. On the same note, putting prayer into schools in the first place was illegal, then, because there's not much more of a religious act than prayer.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, no need to flame me personally, but this is not a Christian nation and was never meant to be. It was started in the first place to get away from forced religion.
Now, everyone /discuss.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Well Pickup man, we're gonna have a chat here. The Constitution reads as follows:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Just so you understand, the Constitution guarantees me and my children the right to pray in school if they want to. It says so right here:
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

By the way, you wouldn't be looking for a call in Texas for a Lutheran church would ya? Yeah, our church is looking. PM if interested.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
Well Pickup man, we're gonna have a chat here. The Constitution reads as follows:


Just so you understand, the Constitution guarantees me and my children the right to pray in school if they want to. It says so right here:
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

By the way, you wouldn't be looking for a call in Texas for a Lutheran church would ya? Yeah, our church is looking. PM if interested.
It also guarantees muslim children the right to pray the way they want in school as well. Can't choose one religion over another, so every single religion has the same rights. So yeah, you can pray, but so can everyone else, so as far as prayer in school, it's not very prudent, because they would have to stop school for every single religion.
I would love to if I was even close to Texas.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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I would rather remove Liberty from our coinage.

Fiat Currency is no Liberty in my book.

It should read SLAVERY to the FED on it.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Most of you get offended if others attempt to remove the word "GOD" that has been written on anything. Your reasoning, "well I'm a 'Christian' and I believe in God" thats why. Well, nothing wrong with being a "Christian" but what a bunch of BS. I looked up the definition of a the word Christian and this is what I found: "the American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus."
Helping others was something Jesus did on a daily basis. He was constantly approached by people, but He always found time to stop what He was doing to help those in need. This is a lesson YOU so called "Christians" must learn if you want to be anything like Jesus, "your" savior.
This is what your "GOD" order you to do: “…therefore, I command you, You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor in this land.” This you can find in your so called "God's Holly Book" Deuteronomy 15:11
I am amazed how many of you so called "Christians" were quick enough to take the time to write your comments and or state your opinions on how and why you voted on this issue. BUT, I'm utterly stunned on how you same people immediately turned your backs at this thread https://www.f150online.com/forums/ge...eat-cause.html. and didn't even offer a single word of inspiration, even more so when I brought it back to light on this thread, https://www.f150online.com/forums/ge...es-around.html.
When I'm asked the question about the believe in "GOD", my cynic response is always the same: to which "GOD" or gods are you referring to, the one who is upset because an adolescent boy watches pornographic pictures in a magazine but who does nothing to alleviate the misery of third world starving children or the one who is fighting Satan that evil force behind the teachings of evolution?
But the belief in a "God" or gods, or the lack of it, did not stop me from answering the thread and at least offering some sort of praise for what the fellow is doing to help others. In retrospect, I can certainly conclude that the word "Christian" is just a metaphor for hypocrite.
 

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OGTerror
Most of you get offended if others attempt to remove the word "GOD" that has been written on anything. Your reasoning, "well I'm a 'Christian' and I believe in God" thats why. Well, nothing wrong with being a "Christian" but what a bunch of BS. I looked up the definition of a the word Christian and this is what I found: "the American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus."
Helping others was something Jesus did on a daily basis. He was constantly approached by people, but He always found time to stop what He was doing to help those in need. This is a lesson YOU so called "Christians" must learn if you want to be anything like Jesus, "your" savior.
This is what your "GOD" order you to do: “…therefore, I command you, You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor in this land.” This you can find in your so called "God's Holly Book" Deuteronomy 15:11
I am amazed how many of you so called "Christians" were quick enough to take the time to write your comments and or state your opinions on how and why you voted on this issue. BUT, I'm utterly stunned on how you same people immediately turned your backs at this thread https://www.f150online.com/forums/ge...eat-cause.html. and didn't even offer a single word of inspiration, even more so when I brought it back to light on this thread, https://www.f150online.com/forums/ge...es-around.html.
When I'm asked the question about the believe in "GOD", my cynic response is always the same: to which "GOD" or gods are you referring to, the one who is upset because and adolescent boy watches pornographic pictures in a magazine but who does nothing to alleviate the misery of third world starving children or the one who is fighting Satan that evil force behind the teachings of evolution?
But the belief in a "God" or gods did not stop me from answering the thread and at least offering some sort of praise for what the fellow is doing to help others. In retrospect, I can certainly conclude that the word "Christian" is just a metaphor for a hypocrite.
So, in your opinion, A Christian has to pay a guy to ride a bicycle for a good cause in order to support a good cause.
I like your thinking!
I'm not attacking you. But that is a strange post.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
So, in your opinion, A Christian has to pay a guy to ride a bicycle for a good cause in order to support a good cause.
I like your thinking!
I'm not attacking you. But that is a strange post.
As strange as it may seem to you, this post is about what a hypocrite who doesn't want the phrase removed from the US currency, is like.
This is not my opinion it's your "God's" order “…therefore, I command you, You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor in this land.” This you can find in your so called "God's Holly Book" Deuteronomy 15:11
But judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you," you're practically invulnerable.
 

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OGTerror
Judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you," you're practically invulnerable.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
Exactly my point.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OGTerror
Exactly my point.
You know nothing about me, or how many charities I sponsor. What is up with you?
I simply inquired, why you lump everyone in one catagory.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Now I see you edited your post. I was away from the computer for awhile.
You still don't understand the basis of what you're ranting about.
 

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