U.S.A. Country of slobs???
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From: Cabot, AR
Look Wook i was not bragging about chite on the internet. I asked if i over reacted and i knoew i may have a bit. He tossed the fist stone (garbage) so i reacted to him and he did not like the way i reacted. I asked him to come out and pick up the garbage he tossed out the window but no he just sat there like i was not even there. I noticed his legs shaking as were his hands and i grabbed his arm and asked him again to get out and clean up the mess he acted like a bitch so thats the way i treated him. You think i was more disturbed than him then you need to WAKE up....
When you pulled him from the truck you committed assault. When you made him stay you more than likely committed another. If your mouth made sounds that threatened him into staying you committed Terroristic Threatening. If you physically restrained him you committed kidnapping. All three are considered violent felonies and carry a prison sentence.
You should be glad the police did not show up. If they did they would have taken statements and you could have been charged. I would not be surprised if this was not done deliberately to avoid charging someone that was trying to do a good deed.
If you do not realize that the only thing keeping you from many years of very unpleasant showers is the testimony of a man you bullied, you need to WAKE up...
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From: Indy
Wrong... Haven't you ever heard of citizens arrest Wookie? A little research on your part might uncover for you that many states allow the use of reasonable force and detainment for such "minor misdemeanor" crimes such as littering.
And make no mistake about it. It is a crime.
Hell, more people should have the nads (with a measure of controlled restraint) of the OP IMO.
And make no mistake about it. It is a crime.
Hell, more people should have the nads (with a measure of controlled restraint) of the OP IMO.
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From: Whitehorse, Yukon
For anyone that doesn't know, or has never seen the picture.
It was a photo of 2 gayish looking guys, sitting inside a room filled with cardboard boxes.
The outside of the boxes were clearly labelled "FUDGE"
In the photo, they were taking fudge, and packing them into the boxes.
I took Burt's & Rockpick's photo and crudely photochopped them onto the 2 guys in the photo.
The caption was something like
ROCKPICK AND BURT CAUGHT PACKING FUDGE!
Anyhoo, I deeply regret losing the picture many years ago, and I have a sneaky feeling those 2 have it, but good luck getting it.
I won;'t make the same mistake of losing that great photochop photo of Bucky driving the semi, that's frikkin awesom!
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From: south western NYS Latitude: 42.34 N, Longitude: 78.46 W
I did not say that YOU were disturbed, I said that you actions were disturbing. There is a difference. You possibly committed two felonies. He threw trash out the window, a very minor misdemeanor.
When you pulled him from the truck you committed assault. When you made him stay you more than likely committed another. If your mouth made sounds that threatened him into staying you committed Terroristic Threatening. If you physically restrained him you committed kidnapping. All three are considered violent felonies and carry a prison sentence.
You should be glad the police did not show up. If they did they would have taken statements and you could have been charged. I would not be surprised if this was not done deliberately to avoid charging someone that was trying to do a good deed.
If you do not realize that the only thing keeping you from many years of very unpleasant showers is the testimony of a man you bullied, you need to WAKE up...
When you pulled him from the truck you committed assault. When you made him stay you more than likely committed another. If your mouth made sounds that threatened him into staying you committed Terroristic Threatening. If you physically restrained him you committed kidnapping. All three are considered violent felonies and carry a prison sentence.
You should be glad the police did not show up. If they did they would have taken statements and you could have been charged. I would not be surprised if this was not done deliberately to avoid charging someone that was trying to do a good deed.
If you do not realize that the only thing keeping you from many years of very unpleasant showers is the testimony of a man you bullied, you need to WAKE up...
Wook i really don't get what your trying to say here but if you think for a minute i am worried about taking a shower with a bunch of **** you are so far from home. I spent many months crawling through nasty mud puddles of nam and seen **** them pussies could only have a nitemare about. I only wished for that ****** shower just to be clean for a dam hour. Kidnapping give me a break......
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From: Cabot, AR
What I am saying is that your actions could have landed you in jail where showers are known to be less than pleasant.
If you physically detain someone against their will it can be considered kidnapping. I am just a little familiar with this and terroristic threatening. I had a judge very carefully explain the two to myself and 11 others. The guy in this case got terroristic threatening for 15 years.
I'm really not trying to bust your ***** here. You seem to be an ok person but just crossed the line on this one. The next time you might not get so lucky.
If you physically detain someone against their will it can be considered kidnapping. I am just a little familiar with this and terroristic threatening. I had a judge very carefully explain the two to myself and 11 others. The guy in this case got terroristic threatening for 15 years.
I'm really not trying to bust your ***** here. You seem to be an ok person but just crossed the line on this one. The next time you might not get so lucky.
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From: Hollywood, CA
Wrong... Haven't you ever heard of citizens arrest Wookie? A little research on your part might uncover for you that many states allow the use of reasonable force and detainment for such "minor misdemeanor" crimes such as littering.
And make no mistake about it. It is a crime.
Hell, more people should have the nads (with a measure of controlled restraint) of the OP IMO.
And make no mistake about it. It is a crime.
Hell, more people should have the nads (with a measure of controlled restraint) of the OP IMO.
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From: Maryland
dude. i agree, it's wrong to litter, but if i was in front of you and something flew outa the bed of my truck or something, and u had the nerve to pull some **** like that on me, you'd be in trouble. I don't take someone approaching my truck nicely.
I had a guy in a nice black mustang run me off the road because he thought i was driving "too slow"
i had a load of rocks in my truck and i was on a very windy, narrow road (going only 5 under- 30 in a 35)
He approached my truck with an attitude and tried to yank me out of my truck, i got out, kindly introduced him to some asphault and "accidentally" dropped a large load of rocks onto the hood of his car..
that nice mustang wasn't lookin too good anymore. neither was his forehead...
watch ur *** next time. that wouldn't fly with me.
I had a guy in a nice black mustang run me off the road because he thought i was driving "too slow"
i had a load of rocks in my truck and i was on a very windy, narrow road (going only 5 under- 30 in a 35)
He approached my truck with an attitude and tried to yank me out of my truck, i got out, kindly introduced him to some asphault and "accidentally" dropped a large load of rocks onto the hood of his car..
that nice mustang wasn't lookin too good anymore. neither was his forehead...
watch ur *** next time. that wouldn't fly with me.
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Don't be too hard on Buck. The littering jerk was probably in Buck's driveway, it must be about 35 miles long.
Hey, Habibi, was this the photo before chopping:
http://www.2flashgames.com/2fgkjn134...acker-3121.jpg
Hey, Habibi, was this the photo before chopping:
http://www.2flashgames.com/2fgkjn134...acker-3121.jpg
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From: Indy
Why would you even say that when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about?
Of course it exists, of course it's legal. Nearly every state has laws on the books that define it.
Government education has failed you.
Of course it exists, of course it's legal. Nearly every state has laws on the books that define it.
Government education has failed you.
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From: Hammer Lane
Constitutionality of citizens arrest...
http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm
How to make a citizens arrest... (Notice the part in bold letters in the last paragraph.)
http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm
How to make a citizens arrest... (Notice the part in bold letters in the last paragraph.)
Sedleigh Adams is a training co-ordinator for the Guardian Angels
In this country we don't have "citizens", we have "subjects". So while most people think of it as a citizen's arrest, it's actually called an Any Person's Arrest. In order for an arrest without warrant to be viewed in a positive way by the law, certain elements have to be present. It's important that you call the police, for starters. Secondly, you have to tell the person that they are under arrest, and why. There also has to be some form of restraint; this doesn't mean you have to pin them to the ground - it could be a hand on their shoulder.
When you're making a citizen's arrest, you can't move the person from wherever they are - technically you need to keep them in the same spot until the police arrive. This can become pretty difficult if you're in a train station or a shop as security may suggest that they help you take the person outside, but you mustn't, otherwise, in a court, you could be accused of kidnapping.
The police advise not to get involved unless you are very sure of your ground, that there are several witnesses and that you can guarantee that you have used less force to detain the person than the force that they may have used against you: even then you can be challenged in court.
But before you start thinking about these points, it's important to remember that a citizen's arrest can only be carried out if you've seen the crime yourself: you can't do it on someone else's behalf. Also, you can only do it if an infraction or criminal activity is taking place which, upon first conviction, would carry a sentence of five years incarceration. You can't make a citizen's arrest for littering - nuisance as that may be. n CDH
In this country we don't have "citizens", we have "subjects". So while most people think of it as a citizen's arrest, it's actually called an Any Person's Arrest. In order for an arrest without warrant to be viewed in a positive way by the law, certain elements have to be present. It's important that you call the police, for starters. Secondly, you have to tell the person that they are under arrest, and why. There also has to be some form of restraint; this doesn't mean you have to pin them to the ground - it could be a hand on their shoulder.
When you're making a citizen's arrest, you can't move the person from wherever they are - technically you need to keep them in the same spot until the police arrive. This can become pretty difficult if you're in a train station or a shop as security may suggest that they help you take the person outside, but you mustn't, otherwise, in a court, you could be accused of kidnapping.
The police advise not to get involved unless you are very sure of your ground, that there are several witnesses and that you can guarantee that you have used less force to detain the person than the force that they may have used against you: even then you can be challenged in court.
But before you start thinking about these points, it's important to remember that a citizen's arrest can only be carried out if you've seen the crime yourself: you can't do it on someone else's behalf. Also, you can only do it if an infraction or criminal activity is taking place which, upon first conviction, would carry a sentence of five years incarceration. You can't make a citizen's arrest for littering - nuisance as that may be. n CDH
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From: the moral high ground
Yeah, Citizens Arrest is just for a felony.
Can't use it for a Misdemeanor.
I saw a guy picking his nose in Public.
Being a Buckdropper wannabe, I tackled him and kept him pinned down until police arrived.
At some point during the struggle, the evidence was lost and of course the perp denied everything.
Can't use it for a Misdemeanor.
I saw a guy picking his nose in Public.
Being a Buckdropper wannabe, I tackled him and kept him pinned down until police arrived.
At some point during the struggle, the evidence was lost and of course the perp denied everything.
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From: Whitehorse, Yukon
Don't be too hard on Buck. The littering jerk was probably in Buck's driveway, it must be about 35 miles long.
Hey, Habibi, was this the photo before chopping:
http://www.2flashgames.com/2fgkjn134...acker-3121.jpg
Hey, Habibi, was this the photo before chopping:
http://www.2flashgames.com/2fgkjn134...acker-3121.jpg
Serotta, you are the man! Something tells me you are quite the packrat.
You're one of those guys who still has an 8-track player in his car arnt ya?
Good job buddy, now we can have some fun again.
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From: Whitehorse, Yukon
I was out in my car today reading that reply in traffic from my Blackberry, and laughed my *** off.
He probably has a NO TRESSPASSING sign every 8th of a mile too, lol
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From: Columbia Station, Ohio
All you guys arguing about citizen's arrest---all I could think of throughout this thread was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqewojda3M0
Somehow I do not think that Mr. Buck Dropper fits into this role...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqewojda3M0
Somehow I do not think that Mr. Buck Dropper fits into this role...
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