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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I'll just quote that again.
Vaporize then.
 
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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I do, but on the same note, can you honestly say that you have absolutely no unhealthy habits? Do you not drive a vehicle, eat unhealthy things from time to time, anything at all? If not, kudos, if so, kudos anyway, you're human.
Point is, we all have vices. Not every single thing that anyone does is healthy, regardless of how large or small of a thing it may be.
Depend may have been too strong of a word, seeing as nobody is actually physically dependant on pot, so depend is not what I should have said. "Like" is a better word for the application. We all have some unhealthy things that we may like.
Yes, I enjoy a few hot wings from time to time...and yes, I brew my own beer...but, I do not have to consume them in order to get through a day or a tense situation. Eating something unhealthy from time to time is not itself bad; but say, eating McD's on a regular basis (say, every lunch or dinner---can be admittedly unhealthy.

I really can't say that I have any unhealthy habits...I do not smoke, I drink a little now and then, I eat a pretty healthy diet, I do not over-indulge in food, and I exercise regularly. No, I am not perfect, but my dependence on chemicals to get me through the day (even caffeine) is very limited. I will admit that I do enjoy a great cup of java, but I can goes days---even weeks---at school without having a cup in the morning to start my day. Chocolate---I love a Hershey Bar, but I am not fascinated by thinking of consuming three or four when I get home...

My point is this---healthy people can develop healthy habits---not vices---to help them get through tough times or even the mundane routines of our daily lives.

I guess if I really have a vice it would be profanity---and that is something that I am certainly not proud of...##$%%^**@!!

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
Yep, I guess I have---but then again, very few of my friends---and none of my relatives smoke. I did tell a fellow offical a while back, at half time, (in a "smoke-free facility") to put the ****** cigarette out and that if he wanted to kill himself slowly that he wasn't going to do it when I was around---and involved with his 2nd-hand smoke...yep, I did...so what do you say to that?

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Well he shouldn't have been smoking in a non-smoking building!

I guess it's just a different way of looking at things. I'm not going to try and change the way people choose to live their lives. I'm sure anyone that smokes, anything, will acknowledge that inhaling smoke is not good for you. They don't need me to tell them that. If they want to smoke, that's their choice, and they'll have to deal with any damage it does to them.

But sure, if a friend was seriously going downhill, I'd try to help them. But if a drink or a smoke helps someone relax at the end of the day (or in the OP's case, AM, lunch, dinner & dessert), I'm not going to say anything. If it starts to affect job performance, personal relationships, etc, then yes, I'd say something. Until then, they're adults and can choose to live their lives as they see fit.

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Good stuff!

It's always refreshing to see everyone's true colors come out. I don't know enough about the girl or the OP, to advise a course of action to be taken.

But, the one thing I can say is that her age and life experiences would dictate whether she is mature enough to handle it IMO. And if I was a true friend, I'd ask myself if I could accept this habit and still remain friends with this person. If not, then I would walk away. That's just me though.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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Off topic, but is the M113 the bradley?


No, the bradley is a beast lol. That lil thing is just a personell carrier. The dingdong was a friend of mine he just had a problem, he tried climbing up a sheer rock cliff in NTC and the tank almost flipped backwards on us we actually had to stop the tank and exit through the roof it was so close!
Nah actually I want to personally appologize if I offended anyone with my look at this matter. The World is going all to hell even in the Army we were as quick to screw over one another as a damn enemy. I hope that wether your straight edge or you smoke it every ten minutes that you just do it safe. Im out on this one. People here seem cool we can always pray or do wat you do for the people who needs help on this matter.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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first off, wow i was not expecting this thread to get to be 7 pages long lol.

secondly, i would not want to rat her out just because of the relationship we have. and to whoever asked if she was pretty, Yes she is Gorgeous...I am not gonna post pics cause it will lead this thread in the wrong direction.

But thank you everyone for your input. Very helpful!

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Camarothatcould
Weird. I just made a thread like this on another forum, about a person close to me who I caught smoking cigs.

I myself am straight edge and cannot see any good out of anything like this crap. Addiction is the ultimate weakness. . . all I can say is cancer cures smoking
What a terribly "small" opinion....both of others and yourself.

To think oneself "above" a particular downfall of any kind is a scary scenario. You evidently haven't lived long enough to realize that. Many times, it's when we FEEL we are at our strongest that we are at our weakest.

Having lived lived long enough to watch myself do things I told myself I'd NEVER do, I have stopped judging long ago. And to say "cancer cures smoking"...how far do you take that? I mean....if a person dies and never smokes or does anything "bad" but stills dies of cancer, what has the cancer cured THEM from?

You say, "addiction is the ultimate weakness". I disagree. I believe people who brand other people as "weak" just because they can't identify with their problems are the ultimate weakness.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
The dirty little secret is that I know much more than I shall ever disclose in this forum (me giving you the finger)...
It's all too easy for someone who really knows NOTHING about a subject to claim that they do on an internet forum, but then again, claim that they don't....uhhh....OK....now I'M confused! Must have been all those brain cells I killed in my smokin' days.

Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Trust me, do some of the things I have, see some of the things I have, might change yout tune.
That's the difference. People who have no personal, real life experience about a particular subject seem to have no problem whatsoever claiming that they're experts on said subject. However, those of us who have been involved, yea, ENGROSSED in it (whether in the past, currently, or both) can contribute to the conversation with a voice of experience and reason. Having smoked more than most in my day, I can tell you for certain that the last thing I ever wanted to do when high was anything dangerous (drive a car...much less drive it FAST, get into a fight, leave the couch, run out of Doritos or Mountain Dew, stop listening to Tool, watch a tele-evangelist....SCARY, etc, etc).

The only regret I have is that my work now does random testing....they may as well set up a camera in my freakin' house!
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Trust me, do some of the things I have, see some of the things I have, might change yout tune. Then again, YOU may not !
Physician, heal thyself.


Take these same words and apply them to yourself in the cops kills a young guy thread.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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What a terribly "small" opinion....both of others and yourself.

To think oneself "above" a particular downfall of any kind is a scary scenario. You evidently haven't lived long enough to realize that. Many times, it's when we FEEL we are at our strongest that we are at our weakest.

Having lived lived long enough to watch myself do things I told myself I'd NEVER do, I have stopped judging long ago. And to say "cancer cures smoking"...how far do you take that? I mean....if a person dies and never smokes or does anything "bad" but stills dies of cancer, what has the cancer cured THEM from?

You say, "addiction is the ultimate weakness". I disagree. I believe people who brand other people as "weak" just because they can't identify with their problems are the ultimate weakness.


I'm young, but I can identify weakness. Wether your way through life is a bottle or a pack, your fawking weak. Sorry you have to smoke to get yourself through your oh so hard days. . .

I dont have any vices or problems. I work, I play, I wrench, I sleep, I eat, sometimes I poo, I studder occasionally, I dont believe in a god( I prefer non-fiction), but I do know what is right and what is wrong and live a life that I know is right.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Camarothatcould
I dont have any vices or problems...
I beg to differ.



Besides, you said it yourself, you're young and you live a pretty damn comfortable life. Once you've been through some truly hard times, then you might be a better judge of what makes someone strong or weak.

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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comical. . . reminds me, to schedule touch-up and sizing
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Do you just watch "Reefer Madness" over and over ? telling yourself thats the truth ?
Man this bought back some funni memories of the 1970's. I honestly had to laugh out loud because some people do believe this movie to be truth...

Originally Posted by referee54
Take a look at it this way...let's say that I get up in the morning, and to get myself ready for the day ahead, I take about 4-6 ozs of Jack or Jim or Seagrams VO---and, at lunch, I do the same---just to get me through the afternoon. Then, I get home, have another 4-6 ozs of liquor---and, at night, to help me relax, and go to sleep, I do the same. I can perform my job, and I do not bother others...but, am I actually living a healthy lifestyle, or am I dependent on something? Is my lifestyle actually healthy? That is my concern.

Isn't she doing the same thing? You may argue that it is only pot, etc...but in the end, is she not dependant on something to help her---and, in the end,is this an unhealthy way to live her life?

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Since you are an educator, here is something to think about...
Look at all the young kids diagnosed as ADD/ADHD and the drugs they give them for these sorts of problems. Most have terrible side effects...some of the effects are unknown because long range studies are still in the process.
Same can be said of most emotional control drugs like Prozac and the like.
Same can be said of most sleeping aids.
All have terrible side effects.

Now if you compare the long term effects of marijuana used for the same problems and the side effects they are nothing when compared to the other drugs...especially the sleeping aids.

Some people actually need some sort of daily medication so they self medicate while they recreate....
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Before we start debating the THC content of marinol vs a joint, Marinol is the equivalent of a low dose joint or roughly .5g. The study was comparing possible side effects/issues with oral synthetic THC vs smoked marijuana (I guess trying to test the validity of grow your own meds vs being raped by pharmecutical companies).
I have tried marinol and it was nothing like smoking the real thing...just a tingly feeling. I think they take most of the buzz out of it somehow.

If not for recreation...
Some people actually need some sort of medication. Considering the alternatives and what I have see them do to people....I would rather deal with a pothead any day than the zombies and nutty people pharmaceuticals create.
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
I beg to differ.

Besides, you said it yourself, you're young and you live a pretty damn comfortable life. Once you've been through hard times might be a better judge of what makes someone strong or weak.

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Thats what I thought of also!
 
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Camarothatcould
I'm young, but I can identify weakness. Wether your way through life is a bottle or a pack, your fawking weak. Sorry you have to smoke to get yourself through your oh so hard days. . .

I dont have any vices or problems. I work, I play, I wrench, I sleep, I eat, sometimes I poo, I studder occasionally, I dont believe in a god( I prefer non-fiction), but I do know what is right and what is wrong and live a life that I know is right.
Begging your pardon Your Omnipotence....er uhh....wait....you don't believe in that sort of thing, right? Wrong. Seems to me, that you view yourself and your own little perfect existence as its own god...sound about right or am I way off base here?

You have no clue of what weakness is or WHO weakness is. Anyone as self-absorbed as the one pictured in the post by NCSU is as weak and shallow as they come....I'm assuming that's you? Wow! I absolutely shudder at the sight of the pure strength you exude.

You say you "don't have any problems or vices". Little guy, you've got more of each than you can possibly comprehend. A little more of the real world should teach you though...give it time.

*hypothetically speaking*

God forbid (oops...sorry) you have a debilitating injury (if you're even susceptible to such things in all your manly fortitude) that causes you crippling and constant pain every moment of your life, and you go to the doctor to find relief, and you're prescribed a narcotic pain medication to take the edge off. After a while, you find yourself dependent on the medication just to keep from getting violently ill. Do you know what that means? YOU'RE ADDICTED!! It wasn't your fault. You just wanted your pain to subside a little so you could live some semblance of a normal life. You weren't doing it for a high, but the end is the end....YOU'RE ADDICTED!!

What's funny is you're already addicted....to yourself! What's sad is you don't even know it.









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