That's because you had no point to begin with.

 

Thank you for your input.

 

Facts, recent facts prove you incorrect. Since you're getting your talking points from CNN and MSNBC, I can see why you'd be factually incorrect. We get it, you don't like the "war on terror"... ANY and ALL progress will be convienintly ignored and (oh so cliché...) "the failed policies of the Bush administration... blah blah blaah... rule your day. You like to wallow in defeat... we get it. Carry on!

Yep you got it! But If I was still watching CNN & MSNBC, I'd be as depressed as you to.
As a tax payer, I've hired the best and brightest to handle my warfare issues. I trust their judgment... not yours, not the guy sitting next to you. You didn't post ANY thing to contradict me... I have no idea where you're pulling that out of... I have a guess though.

Well that's too bad, now isn't it? Maybe the king should ask us to leave then, right?

No, you're putting words in my mouth... I called -your- facts irrelevant, get it right will ya'?
You said we can't hold the region to "American Standards", yet you post a link that proposes "human rights violations". Violations based on who's standards? American? By the Saudi "standard" beheading and stoning are perfectly acceptable, and part of their culture. Isn't your whole premise based on "who are we to nation build, based on an American standard"? You're butt hurt because I called you on your own flaming hypocrisy...
I QUOTE YOU!
You keep trying to spin yourself out of that hole you're digging... yo've made yourself dizzy. You'd think the Old Dogg™ would be used to chasing his own tail... guess not.

It's in their own words... go look it up. I've grown tired supplementing your education...
No, you're based on hyperbole and conjecture, just like every other Liberal, and the nonsensical points you report as "fact". The MSM has you hook line and sinker... you actually believe your own delusions...!!

Hey, believe what you want... I had a rather long conversion with an active duty service member about what you propose... It's agreed, that those with the least members are the minority, and your defeatist attitude puts YOU there. "Those with poor attitudes are not looked upon with great favor." That's an exact quote. There is "NO WAY" that your thought process is acceptable to the MAJORITY of current service members.

 

Maybe this is why you had such a hard time with "hazing"? I'm told that most look forward to the "Line Crossing Ceremony". Was told it is "great fun" and a way to let off steam?

change "right" to "left" and the same is said for you. Problem for you is that your policies are the failed ones... Freddie Mac, Fanny Mae, ACORN... just ot name a few...socialism, communism, and a steadfast commitment to defeat, to name a few more.

Good, fight them there instead of here. Perhaps if we are attacked again... maybe it will be somewhere close to your neighborhood... You'll lose your closely held liberal ideology pretty quick, I assure you.

Wooop dere it issss... woooop dere it issss... In all it's glory... back pedal, spin, shuck, jive... you wrote it...

This right here screams ignorant Liberal...


I don't believe you joined of your own free will, nor do I believe your intentions were as altruistic as you make them appear. Sorry, it's the total sum of your "on line persona" that leads to this conclusion. Perhaps instead of deflecting the issue, maybe you should look inward as to why some one like me could arrive at that thought, being that it's "so untrue". then again, you seem to be looking for validation from me, that some how because of your 20 year in service that you have some magical grasp of current world events.

You're just another liberal shill... For you to have viewed your service as "the best time of your life"... you don't speak very highly of the current service members accomplishments... you know your Brothers and Sisters that are out there today fighting for the both of us. I know... you'll use the tired old line "I support the Troops, just not their mission... right? Guess what then..? I'll support your -20 years of past service-, but I don't support -you- or your ideology. Fair enough?

 

Look up the meaning of the word "furthermore"

Jesus, I hope you're not as illiterate and "thick" as you appear to be.

 

Ok I will call you.
Post a link from this post from CNN or MSNBC right here ________.


Can you read or did you ignore the link you now reference as an argument point? The link gave many sources..even by UN standards.
Try to read and understand something before you mis-quote it.

Well I live between 2 E-9's one still on active duty, I keep touch with many other friends (senior military) that dont see it as you do and I live by the worlds largest Naval Instillation, a major tatical air base and and a decent size army base all within 40 miles I visit regularly and I frequently chat with troops from all branches...so who is more likely to know what the majority thinks?
Maybe people like you that fear and smear make them keep their opinions to themselves.
Who cares what you were told. I said out of 20 years in the military the only thing I didn't like was hazing.
The fact that you don't understand really tells something about you or your character. Only weak people that need the group bully mentality enjoy hazing. They do things in the group they cant do alone.
I asked you before to try and stay on topic.
We are discussing the war in Iraq.

Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
I shouldn't have to say this but 911 was an unprovoked attack on innocent people.
Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
WTC attack occurred because of our presence. This is why they don't like us. Christian Army in their muslim holy land
I didnt think you had reading comprehension problems but let me make it simple.
Terrorist wrongly attacked innocent people because of our presence in Saudi Arabia. Same thing I said you seem to think is a back pedal.
Maybe you have no argument so you are getting delusional?
More delusional rants, personal attacks. Next you will predictably question my patriotism.

 

More predictable personal attacks since you lost your argument and all that is left is the patriot card.
Being an American means being entitled to an opinion. If others don't share it I don't call their love of this country we are all part of.
Since this wrong minded (in my opinion) war started people like you with no argument play the patriot card with those that disagree.
This is one of the most Un-American tactics I have ever seen. To imply Americans that don't support this war don't support the troops is a very poor and dirty tactic.
I expected it.
Your followed a very familiar and common pattern.
Fear and smear work on the weak and faint of heart but not on me.

You still ignored the facts...even the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
"there is no purely military solution in Iraq"
"no amount of troops in no amount of time will make much of a difference."
They "remain frozen by their history,"
the Iraqi parliament is "at a standstill," with nearly every session since November adjourning because too few legislators showed up.

Quoted from the Washington Post

 

Who are you that I would need validation from?
A bit self important aren't you?

It may seem magical to you but....
My 20 years of service gave me the opportunity to travel and see some of the places you read and watch TV about. Maybe talk to people from different backgrounds, cultures, countries that see the world differently, have other opinions.
Where have you been in the middle east?
Ever talk to any people from there?
Or do you have some magical grasp of places you have only heard about?

 

listening to NPR? Typical liberal drivel. Anyone who votes for Hussein is a fool and needs to deported immediately!

 

You seem to be a little pre occupied with me... sure, why not? If I'm just some right wing extremist, why waste your time arguing with me? I'm here killing time, and I enjoy annoying MSNBC/CNN Liberals...

Magical? WOW, now who's "over the top"? You sound like your quoting the recruitment pamphlet! You're going to try and convince me you had some "grand career... saw the world, and wrenched on "less than reliable" CH-53s..."? (too bad you didn't make it to the "K" variant... she's gona be bad ***) You lost all hope of that about 10 posts ago...

What makes you think I haven’t and don't?

Of the people I know, enlisted and not, they just don't share your defeatist, doom and gloom, blame us first attitude. ESPECIALLY THE INLISTED!! 6 Have read this entire thread just to see what I'm talking about
So, it is sort of personal with me, because of your attitude, you're dismissing the hard work and sacrifice of those currently serving. Why? Because you have a bug up your *** over our "unjust occupation of a land, where they hate Christian Armies, so they justifiably (according to you) destroy the WTC... blaaaaaahhh, blllaaa blaaa? Oh.. BTW that's "WORLD" Trade Center... so it wasn't just an attack on America.

Did you or did you NOT write the following?
I don't care how you try to diminish it... you wrote it. Give it up.

It looks like after 20 years you're still pretty upset about it. I’m only guessing, but if you had this attitude during those “20 years of service”, I’m sure you saw a fair amount of “hazing”. I’ve never hazed anyone, singularly or in a group. So I wouldn’t know. I’ve been through a few “initiations” in my life time, but I wouldn’t categorize it as Hazing. “Paying your dues”? Ohhhhh! I think I got it... Liberals don’t think you have to “work” or “pay dues”… riiiiight. So maybe you “expected” to shun tradition(s)… I got it... You were special… you thought you were above such silliness and “mob mentality”… rather than just fit in and be part of the “team”… you probably whined too much about the “hazing”… and received more and more of it… Maybe you’re the type that thought all of that was beneath you?

WiKi link
OHH MY GOD THE HORROR!!!

If you think the "Line Crossing Ceremony" amounts to nothing but "hazing" and "bully mentality"... then you MOST CERTAINLY MISS THE ENTIRE POINT AND TRADITION OF IT. You're just reinforcing my thoughts that you joined the service for convenience. I think you were shocked that you actually had to serve something other than yourself!
You're still a shill...

 

And for the parallel....

You make it all to easy...

 

Now dang it all S-76!! I opened that link and puked all over my key board when I saw pelosi and reed together. in one picture. And to think the obama suporters think THAT couple is worthwhile...

 

I'm sorry... I suppose I should posted "NSFC" Not Safe For Conservatives!

More seriously... They control a good portion of your government. Get used to seeing ALOT more of them. Think "filibuster proof" and Gang of Three... Those two with Obama... I don't think even the Obama supporters can comprehend the amount of trouble those 3 are going to cause. No check, no balance. A 100% liberal / socialist driven agenda.

"We will pay the price, But we will not count the cost"

 

its pretty scary man, i must admit.

 

Sorry to disappoint you but when I want truck facts I view the other parts of this site. The discussion area is entertainment. Nothing more nothing less.
If you think carrying on a discussion about a topic makes someone preoccupied with you...you may be gay or have the tendencies and we will stop after this exchange. I didn't mean to mislead you.
Magical was your word but I was the Pacific Fleet recruiter of the year and Pacific Fleet Sailor of the year back in the 80's so I will take that hit but I did have a grand career, saw the world and wrenched and was an Aircrewman on RH-53D, and MH-53E minesweepers and I also wrenched on H-46's, F-4J's, F14A's, EA-6B's and at the intermediate level of maintenance I worked on many other aircraft electrical and electronics.
But according to you im mr bad attitude non team player un-American.
Never said you didn't but you don't talk like it. (one of your lines)
One does not equal the other.
I disagree with the war with Iraq. The troops are following the orders of the CIC. It's BS and stupid to link them together. (very weak distraction tactic)
The Military follows orders of CIC.
CIC represents America and American people.
Im an American with free will so I don't have to agree with CIC
Maybe it's too hard to keep two different thoughts in your head at the same time?
You bought into a lie as to why we are in Iraq. We did the same in Iran propping up a dictator, we do the same in Saudi Arabia. The French did the same, the British did the same, The Soviet Union did the same.
We need to kill all responsible for the WTC attack.
Stopping the civil war in Iraq has nothing to do with WTC.
Occupying Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing to do with WTC.
Well since you were not there, don't know and need hearsay and links to read and reference I will defer to your ignorance.
As already said your comments reflect and speak about your character.
At least you could have said something stupid and funny instead of just a display of stupidity and ignorance.

Then you resort to flat out lies and pat yourself on the back.
I guess if that is the best you can do I will leave you alone.
Your kung foo is very weak.
As already said your comments reflect and speak about your character.
At least you could have said something stupid and funny instead of just a display of stupidity and ignorance.
Now you are a Liar also.