"The fundamentals of the economy are strong"

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pickup Man
I see that Obama is asking for another economic stimulus program.
I do not see why he feels the government can just blow all of this money on bailouts and stay afloat themselves. We have an unemployment rate of 6.1%, the highest in over 5 years, so maybe trying to create jobs would be the best way to go instead of throwing money around.
And the best way to create jobs is to lower taxes. I have lower taxes, I spend more, companies have to make more, they have to hire more. Why does the Gov't not get this?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Well even though this thread has seriously derailed, I thought I'd throw my .02 in on the original topic. First I'd bet that the OP hasn't seen the entire quote, rather just followed the hype. So I'll do the work for you:

Originally Posted by John McCain 9/15/08
"You know there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street and it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think, still the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult time. And I promise you, we will never put America in this position again. We will clean up Wall Street. We will reform government."
So he is quite clearly not stating that the economy is doing well. In fact, he said quite the opposite. But what does he mean by the "fundamentals of the economy"? Lets ask him.

Originally Posted by John McCain 9/15/2008
“My opponents may disagree, but those fundamentals – the American worker, the innovation, the entrepreneurship, the small business – are the fundamentals of America and I think they are strong,”
So rather than saying he thinks we are doing well, he says we are going through a difficult time but believes that the American people have the ability and drive to get through it.

Now, to be fair, his definition of the "fundamentals of the economy" may not be spot on. Economics is not an exact science, so those of us who have studied it realize that many things change from text book to text book. Complicating the matter there is really no definition for the "fundamentals of an economy" so it is open to your personal opinion. Many Economists will state that these things are not the fundamentals, things like GDP, unemployment rate, etc. are the fundamentals. Personally, I think those are just fundamental methods for evaluating the economy, not the "fundamentals". But I'd venture to say if you walked down the street and asked the average person what are the fundamentals of the economy, you'd get more answers along the lines of small business, the workers, etc.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
blah blah blah blah...
your candidate has flip flopped and zigg zagged all over the place especially ALL of last week and he looks like a complete moron right now.

i don't need to write a long-winded passage.

nothing has derailed... everything is on track.

the smarter people will prevail and Obama will win.

you kill me with your wishful thinking!

don't worry, on November 5th, i'll buy you a box of these to help you with your chronic sobbing.


 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Looks like someone (^^^^) has had too much:

 

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nu guy

i don't need to write a long-winded passage.
The English language greatly appreciates it.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nu guy
your candidate has flip flopped and zigg zagged all over the place especially ALL of last week and he looks like a complete moron right now.

i don't need to write a long-winded passage.

nothing has derailed... everything is on track.

the smarter people will prevail and Obama will win.

you kill me with your wishful thinking!

don't worry, on November 5th, i'll buy you a box of these to help you with your chronic sobbing.


Of course you don't need to write a long winded response, you've been soundly defeated by facts (the actual quotes) and logic on this particular subject. Your inability to actually debate the subject matter you actually brought up just furthers the proof that your argument holds no weight. I even gave you the direction you needed to go to try and win the argument, but I can only conclude that you lack the mental capacity to understand it and make the argument. It is no wonder you are blindly following a candidate that promises change but has done nothing in his career to actually provide necessary change.

I'll highlight it again for you, in case you actually want to provide an intelligent response.

Originally Posted by me
Many Economists will state that these things are not the fundamentals, things like GDP, unemployment rate, etc. are the fundamentals.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
blah blah blah blah...
there's no need to debate you (especially typing on this cell phone while getting paid at work), i just like to see folks like you get excited with this stupid false hope that McSame is going to win! not a chance pal!

you guys are funny!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Obama/Biden 2008. Change. That's all we'll be left with.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nu guy
there's no need to debate you (especially typing on this cell phone while getting paid at work), i just like to see folks like you get excited with this stupid false hope that McSame is going to win! not a chance pal!

you guys are funny!
I'll make a deal with you:

I will do ........you decide

You listen to Sean Hannity on the radio for one week straight (monday through friday).
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nu guy
(especially typing on this cell phone while getting paid at work),
your parents must be proud.... Typical socialist ideals here folks. You get paid to screw around, while someone else picks up your slack and gets paid the same. No wonder you want Obama in the White House. If your lucky, by the time his first 4 years is up you won't even have to go to work to collect your paycheck. (but you will probably have to stand in line for bread and TP)
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
No wonder you want Obama in the White House. If your lucky, by the time his first 4 years is up you won't even have to go to work to collect your paycheck.

ahhhh...

so you do believe Obama will win!

i knew you'd wise up sooner or later.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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chicken
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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lighten up guys, it's all in fun.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
your parents must be proud.... Typical socialist ideals here folks. You get paid to screw around, while someone else picks up your slack and gets paid the same. No wonder you want Obama in the White House. If your lucky, by the time his first 4 years is up you won't even have to go to work to collect your paycheck. (but you will probably have to stand in line for bread and TP)
You never use your computer at work for something other than work?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by momalle1
You never use your computer at work for something other than work?
I do, at break and lunch.
 
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