You obviously havent seen this video.

It's also obvious you don't know the facts.

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=194&sid=85625

 

Sorry - my reason I'm voting for McCain is because he's not Obama. I know you wanted something more intelligent than that, but I'd vote for Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for Obama.

Lesser of the evils. I don't care much for McCain either.

 

Im taking this for a sig, classic!

 

Stealth ol buddy we are just beating a dead horse the more I here these libos talk, the more I believe in mind control, zombies have more ability to comprehend.

 

Well you disallowed my answer but I will use it anyway, slightly modified.

As seen as I saw that it was going to be either Obama or Hillary I knew my vote would be for the Republican no matter who they were. They could have put Mr. Ed on the ballot and I STILL would vote for him. I would rather have a talking horse than either of those jacka$$es.

I feel this election is going to go down as one of the biggest failures ever for the Democratic party. They had this election in the bag. All they needed to do was pick a moderate candide and it would have been game over. Instead they went to two of the most far left choices they have. Neither one is worth two squirts of monkey pi$$.

My hopes for this election is that this utter failure will fracture the Democratic party. One faction will return to the Democrats of 50 years ago and the other will be all the far left whack jobs that have infested the party. This will give us a three party system which is a good start. Now if the Republicans would split things would be even better. Four political parties would make for a much better government.

 

Funny, just four years ago, Kerry and Edwards were the two most to the left.

 

Kerry was pretty far left but not all the worst of the bunch.

Edwards is just a scum bag laywer, 'nuff said.

 

Can any of our Canadian friends speak to this? It's my understanding that Canada enjoys more vacation and "perks" in thier economy than the US does. People say that US health care is fantastic, and it can be if you can afford it, and if you cant then some one else will pay for it (kind of like socialized medicine...)

 

Under a socialized healthcare plan if you have cancer, need bypass surgery, etc etc does not take into account how "sick" you are. You are put in line behind everyone else who needs the same procedure. if you are in the later stages of lung cancer and need chemo and radiation immediately, that's just too bad. You wait just like the guy who is in the beginning stages.

There is a reason why a lot people from Canada come to the US for treatment. Sometimes waiting in line means you will die waiting! When the Govt takes over your healthcare plan on it being screwed up. I don't like the system as it is, but it works. It needs to be changed, but I like the idea of being able to have surgery without waiting if I need it.

 

There are two types of care in Canada. There is the general socialized medicine available to the average joe that can not afford Health insurance. And then care available through health insurance. I have several students that have recently moved from Canada. The economy is fine and health care is fine. If you have insurance then you do not necessarily wait in line. I find it ironic that when people are provided something relatively free of charge, they still complain.....WTF. Do you live in Canada? Just curious.

 

Canadian view:

Last month my friend was at work and all of a sudden had massive pains in the left side of his chest. He thought it was his heart and someone drove him to an emergeny room at the nearest hospital. When he walked in there was one person ahead of him. Before they got to him more people came in. It's not a first come first served thing here though. He didn't get taken back and looked at until 10 hours later. Turns out it was only a muscle torn away from the wall of his chest (or something like that). Just glad it wasn't his heart. In at 9:00am - looked at around 7:00pm - out at 10:00pm.

Last weekend our daughter had a company party at her house. Her dog bit one of her co-workers in the leg so she rushed him to the emergency room for stitches. Took 6 hours to get looked at and stitched up.

It's not all bad though. 5 years ago my mother-in-law who was in her 90's fell and broke her hip. From the first minute she got to the hospital she was taken in and had nothing but excellent care right away. She was in the hospital for a month or so and I have nothing but good things to say about that experience.

It's not uncommon to have to wait a year for something like knee surgery. These few examples are from personal experience within our family so it's not just stories I've heard. One thing that does make the news occassionaly is someone having to wait 6 months or more just to get an MRI.

Healthcare here isn't "free" either. Not if you make over 20,000 a year or so. It's not astronomical though and usually the employer pays.

Not sure what you mean about these other "perks". We get 11 stat holidays in BC. I think some provinces get 12 because they add one of their own.

 

Seriously though, you can't mean that? She has lead more in her short political career than Obama has in his entire life! If you call voting "Present" experience then sign me up, I'll be the most experienced **** on the block!

She knocked it out of the park last night and really inspired the torn "home base" of republicans. I do not think any Repub. have any questions to their ticket now. Now it's time to reach out to independent and undecided voters!

 

That's not how it works in Alberta or BC.

Here if you don't want to wait in que for an MRI or knee surgery for example you just go to the States and have one done and pay for it yourself. That's the only way we know how to not wait in line.

 

Good points so far on Socialized Healthcare. What some Americans don't understand about "waiting in line" is that's not just at a certain hospital in the waiting room. The MRI is a good example. If a Dr believes you have a dangerous bleed or tumor in your brain that could kill you. He recommends you have an MRI... only thing is you wait on everyone else who needs an MRI because of headaches all the way down then line. So you wait in line for 6 months and find out that the small tumor the Dr believed you had has grown to the size of a grapefruit and is inoperable at that point.... KINDA SUCKS DOESN'T IT.

I my Dr tells me to get an MRI I go to the hospital or clinic and get my MRI.

As far as the TWO TYPES of healtcare in Canada... one being a paid insurance that gets you better care and one being the free care where you wait in line. That is exactly the problem. It is telling people if you can't afford it you wait in line. NOONE IS REFUSED HEALTHCARE IN AMERICAN HOSPITALS!! Illeagal immigrants get Bypass surgery, cancer treatments, dialysis, etc just like the rest of us. They are just another uninsured person who will get the same treatment someone with insurance gets. That is why insurance is sky high!

 

Do you think your health care system is a model to be followed? Have you found it "works" for you and your family as it is meant to? I'd like to hear from more folks living in Canada who use the system.

It is scary to me to think I might have to wait for a procedure that is not life threatening at the time, but after waiting it is too late and I end up dying from something that was completely treatable.

Sure the US health care system needs help, but I don't think Canada and Europes system is the way to go. I feel many of the American's without healthcare CHOOSE to not pay for it because their priorities are screwed up. If you drive a vehicle with 26 in rims, have a boat, a motorcycle, jetskis, any numerous other toys, etc etc etc and you don't pay for health insurance because you can't afford it.... then you are part of the problem. I don't want to be punished because others make poor choices with their money.