You're at home asleep when you here someone in your house. You are a large strong man. The only weapon you have in your house is a strong iron fire poker. You use this fire poker and club the burglar in the head killing him instantly or life long brain damage.

Now for the question {odds wise} Which weopon would do the least damage, and not kill someone. A strong man with a fire poker, or a body shot with a small caliber weapon say 22 revolver, 25 auto, even a 38 caliber. One shot, the odds are the person would survive. One good solid lick with the poker, that person is maimed for life or dead.

Agree?
Dissagree?


I'm not an NRA nutt.
I'm not even a hunter.
I do believe in the right to bare arms

 

Brenneke 12 ga slug to the head. Makes a mess, but still a lot cleaner than the lawsuit for causing bodily harm to some poor fellow who was breaking in because society has failed him.

 

agree but our country has everything *** backwards so the odds are he would end up suing you or his family would end up suing you. sooo....shoot to kill and say you thought your life was being threatened...

 

Agree.

If someone breaks into my house they are as good as dead. The state has my back to "shoot to kill" during a home invasion.

 

It is ALWAYS better to be judged by twelve than carried by six

a .22 pistol will most likely just **** him off and he will come take your gun away and pistol whip you with it

you never shoot to kill. Here is some free advise that was given to me by a lawyer that is very well versed in self defense cases, you shot to stop his forward motion, shooting to kill can be construed as intent to kill, shooting to stop forward motion shows fear for life and the intent to protect it, I am not saying don't splatter his head all over the wall far from it someone breaks into my house and Its either a limited edition 12 ga hydroshok sabot slug or a .45acp hydra either way the coroner gets to remove him from my house and the wife gets the new carpet she wants

 

Two in the chest and one in the head.

 

Shoot to stop the threat.

If the threat dies in the process, well, that's an unfortunate side effect.

 

Quite a response..

If you are proficient, you can stop an intruder with a small gun.
Why take chances? You're all probably right.

 

I'm not depending on a small gun when my life is on the line, I'm bringing to bare the greatest amount of firepower I can, in an effort to stop the threat immediately.

Shoot them until they stop. Whether it's one round or one hundred.

 

you are going for 1 shot stop that is not to say dead in 1 shot only you take away the will/ability to be a threat, the ratios of .22, .25, .32 and .380 being one shot stops in real life situations are in the teens to low 30's % if that (I am being kinda generous as I am too lazy to go hunt up the info) and that doubles going to a 9mm and it goes up from there all in all the best gun to have is the gun you have at the time you need it

 

I dunno man, if it was me defending my house, I'll take the .38 anyday over the poker. (my first choice would be a 12 gage shotgun loaded with buckshot)

As far as defending your actions in a court of law, seems to me it's fair ball when it comes to someone breaking into the family homestead.

Unless your a member of some E.R.T. or some highly trained & specialized force, you can get away with using "some" excessive force, especially when it comes down to defending your family inside your home.

I fired 3 rounds in the line of duty with my AR-15.
While on the witness stand, the crown asked me if I was "shooting to kill".
To which I replied "No Sir, I was shooting for center of mass"

A center of mass hit with a .223 hollow point will most likely be fatal anyway, but anything is better than saying you were "shooting to kill".

 

I'd choose a shooter over a poker. Frankly, I'm not fond of being that close to somebody who is about to die. The 25 Auto is weakest round available. The 22 LR is known to ricochet once inside the body. The 38 Special, unless loaded with hot 125 gr HPs will just punch a hole. So shot placement with any of the ones listed will be limited to between the nips. Otherwise, I carry a 40SW normally, or either a 45 ACP or I also carry a 1898 Colt SAA in 38-40. All of my carry guns will penetrate a denim jacket......and that's important if you expect to survive. I'm just glad the the State of Texas now has the Castle Doctrine. If an intruder is in the house, kill him- that's the law. None of this pansy he has to show that he is going to do you harm, none of the you can't shoot if he has a knife, just kill 'im. No trial, no jury, just clean up the mess. Texas ain't a safe place for a burglar.

 

Arizona too

 

That's the way it should be, in Canada, it's pretty much the exact opposite of everything you wrote.
We're a bunch of liberal pansies when it comes to this stuff.

 

well that right there admitting it, is the first step in reducing your Pansie-ness

the second step is shooting every other liberal and then asking the rest if they have a problem with what you did.