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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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FYI. I was kidding about the compassion thing. However, I do think people around here pass judgment way too quickly on a lot of things.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
FYI. I was kidding about the compassion thing. However, I do think people around here pass judgment way too quickly on a lot of things.
Without it there would be no debate. Passing judgement that is.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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ummm didnt the democrat controlled congress write the bill? so it seems to me it aint all georges fault. the bill shouldnt have been written in the first place.
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Oh no you didn't! Nobody can prove Shines wrong!

Its this type of prevailing thought that leads me to believe that the general American population are idiots. Both parties give the public a jolly good rear ending, and one side blames the other. Do yall understand the concept of "slight of hand"? This is exactly what is going on. Original Gansta is too caught up in Obama whispering sweet nothings in his ear, while Stealth is on his knees before McCain... And neither realize that both parties are screwing us, and blaming the other side. WTF?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
FYI. I was kidding about the compassion thing. However, I do think people around here pass judgment way too quickly on a lot of things.
bite your tongue, its my conclusion and if I wanna jump to it I will
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
FYI. I was kidding about the compassion thing. However, I do think people around here pass judgment way too quickly on a lot of things.
I know that you were joking. I just happen to be on a tirade.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
Its this type of prevailing thought that leads me to believe that the general American population are idiots. Both parties give the public a jolly good rear ending, and one side blames the other. Do yall understand the concept of "slight of hand"? This is exactly what is going on. Original Gansta is too caught up in Obama whispering sweet nothings in his ear, while Stealth is on his knees before McCain... And neither realize that both parties are screwing us, and blaming the other side. WTF?

and I absolutely understand that both parties are giving me the business

but at least the republicans at least have the decency of giving me a reach around
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
What do you propose be done Shines? The economy is in the dumps, something has to be done before we're in the Great(er) Depression ...
Let the failures fail and don't penalize me for it. I bought a house I could afford, why should I have to pay for someone that didn't?

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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but, I, am, a, product, of, the, public, school, system, do, you, know, that, qualifies, me, as, a, functional, illiterate,

better
Not to mention, Arizona's school system. One of the lowest in the nation.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
FYI. I was kidding about the compassion thing. However, I do think people around here pass judgment way too quickly on a lot of things.
The problem that US voters often make is mistaking taxation for compassion. I do my best to donate to charitable causes that I agree with. That's compassion. When the government takes my property on threat of seizure and/or imprisonment to give to someone who made bad decisions (or was simply unlucky), that's theft.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim
The problem that US voters often make is mistaking taxation for compassion. I do my best to donate to charitable causes that I agree with. That's compassion. When the government takes my property on threat of seizure and/or imprisonment to give to someone who made bad decisions (or was simply unlucky), that's theft.

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Why does this FACT elude so many?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Shines is correct.

The lack of personal responsibility in this country is sickening. I'm 25 and buying my first house...I'm not looking at anything over $90k. I make $160k a year. I've been in the ****ter before, between being sick/injured and just the general instability that is LIFE. I am in no way better/wiser/smarter than any other person, I have simply accepted that life comes with risks, rewards, highs, and lows...and they are up to each and every one of us to plow through...not up to our "village" to get us through. It has always been the drive and determination of the individual that has made US into the greatest nation to ever exist. Collectivism and socialism have never made for a successful nation, never made for successful people. It is pie in the sky bull**** that sounds good to those without the testicular fortitude to make their own way in life and would rather suck from the teat of laziness and ineptitude than strap one on and make their own way.

I have zero compassion for anyone who spends above their means and then complains about it when the wolf blows down the house of sticks.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim
Let the failures fail and don't penalize me for it. I bought a house I could afford, why should I have to pay for someone that didn't?
I couldn't have said it better myself.



Though this doesn't make me believe that I made a bad decision in '04, this is a bone head move by our president, and congress. Political manuvering at the expense of the American people.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Though this doesn't make me believe that I made a bad decision in '04, this is a bone head move by our president, and congress. Political manuvering at the expense of the American people.
Thank you I get a little tired of people defending their party at all costs. I voted for W, and do not regret it. We are way better off. Scares me to think of what Kerry would have done. Kinda makes me sick...just like Obama.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
I have no problems being compassionate...but being compassionate to the ignorant, is not something I care to delve into.
But being compassionate to the ignorant misinformed buyer, is not the same as being compassionate to the informed buyer, who took a chance on rates not rising.

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But,
being compassionate to the ignorant buyer who purchased well above their means is not the same as
being compassionate to the misinformed buyer who was duped by a shaddy loan agent which is not the same as
being compassionate to the informed buyer, who took a chance on rates not rising.
 

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