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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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No, I know there are some kids that for some reason, would wanna learn that in public school instead of their church that they probably attend. But I know there are more kids that dont wanna hear the Christian religion than there are kids that do. Its a fact. There are more people that aren't Christian than there are Christians.
Hardly. Come to the schools I attended, everyone would want to hear about Christian and creationism beliefs. We had Muslims that had been converted to Christians and some that were still Muslim, but they had no problem learning about the creationism. Same goes for the Aethesists, Jews, etc at my school. The problem with your debate is that your basing your whole opinion and view point on your own schools and thinking in absolutes. It's not an absolutes, did it ever come across your mind that in other schools it could be different?

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Kids today dont get 2 ****s about god anyways. Its a new century. This isnt like life back in the 50's. More and more kids are finally questioning why they are Christians. They are Christians only because they were born into it and they want out. I got out of the Christian hivemind and decided to think on my own and I figured out that when your a Christian, you're more likely to be wrong if anything.
Again you speak in absolutes. This is all coming from someone who is atheist? A bit skewed if you will. Anyways, I care about God and I have all my life. I don't get to church every Sunday. I don't believe in all of the different sections of Christianity. I believe in Christianity and the fact that God exists. I pray every once and a while, not only when I need help. Not to mention my family cares about God. My girlfriend's family cares about God. I'm pretty sure everyone on my street is a Christian, even the alcoholic on the corner. Stop thinking so closed minded, I'm a very open minded person and I can respect someone's choice in what they believe but you're not giving anyone else any respect and expecting it back. Basing your argument on personal opinion of your own thoughts and the thoughts that are based around you is weak and shows why you can't debate. I can only assume from that your public school wasn't that great, but I wouldn't go as far to say all public schools are bad. The point is everything isn't black and white, don't speak in absolutes, it just shows how ignorant and naive you really are ... On a last note, "hivemind", good God you've been playing way too many video games.
 

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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You're right, its a pack of wild hound dogs ravaging foreign lands in the name of Christ, killing because the people don't believe.
I feel sorry for you, I really do.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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64 posts as to whether this is appropiate behavior.

Want to watch everyone change chairs?
Instead of a Cross, the teacher burns in a Carbon Credit with Al Gores' signature underneath....
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul

64 posts as to whether this is appropiate behavior.

Want to watch everyone change chairs?
Instead of a Cross, the teacher burns in a Carbon Credit with Al Gores' signature underneath....
Troublemaker!
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Those people didn't kill because they were Athiest. Thats the difference here. They didnt kill for a Athiest cause. The Christians sure did, which is stupid. Another reason why religion causes problems.
you have split the hair so many times it is now gone.

Originally Posted by nuclearthreat54
I got out of the Christian hivemind and decided to think on my own and I figured out that when your a Christian, you're more likely to be wrong if anything.
were you touched as a alter boy or what, we get it you hate Christians at a level usually seen only in a abuse victim or a Muslim, but I can tell your not a muslim or you would not be pissy about creationism.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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My 2cents
Christ taught against most things done in his name. He did teach how to live a good life. How could that be disputed?
How can someone argue that FACT.

If you can argue that FACT, you do not understand the fundamentals of civilization.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa... Who said "against religion" ??? Are you afraid of science going against religion? That's funny.

And besides.. A public school is ALSO not a place for pushing religious beliefs on kids from any standpoint. Lets be honest. Creation has ~no~ scientific evidence... Sure you will say the bible... But that was written a couple thousand years ago about when if you showed them an ipod they would start calling you god.

Stealth... If they started teaching from the Koran or Torah or about reincarnation I am sure that a good majority of the school's parents would be raising who knows what... Why not be fair to everyone and only teach stuff that can be backed up by evidence and proven?
Here we go again.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul

64 posts as to whether this is appropiate behavior.

Want to watch everyone change chairs?
Instead of a Cross, the teacher burns in a Carbon Credit with Al Gores' signature underneath....
Or the Star of David.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by po1911
you have split the hair so many times it is now gone.

were you touched as a alter boy or what, we get it you hate Christians at a level usually seen only in a abuse victim or a Muslim, but I can tell your not a muslim or you would not be pissy about creationism.
I really dont know how many times I have to tell you, I dont have Christians. I dont. Or else i'd pretty much not be in this country. I just dont agree with how they think.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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I just think he crossed the line.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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here is some more

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/loc...eshwater.html?

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/loc...ion_bible.html

Yep, from Wiki---but legally, this is where Ohio stands on Creationism as well...

In 1967, the Tennessee public schools were threatened with another lawsuit over the Butler Act's constitutionality, and, fearing public reprisal, Tennessee's legislature repealed the Butler Act. In the following year, 1968, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Epperson v. Arkansas that Arkansas's law prohibiting the teaching of evolution was in violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court held that the Establishment Clause prohibits the state from advancing any religion, and determined that the Arkansas law which allowed the teaching of creation while disallowing the teaching of evolution advanced a religion, and was therefore in violation of the 1st amendment Establishment clause. This holding reflected a broader understanding of the Establishment Clause: instead of just prohibiting laws that established a state religion, the Clause was interpreted to prohibit laws that furthered religion. Opponents, pointing to the previous decision, argued that this amounted to judicial activism.

Tim C.
 
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