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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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The 18 last year was not a good car. JGR was not putting much money into it because it did not have a good driver.
And you know this how?


Originally Posted by Gipraw
Dude.. are you still stuck on that? No one is going to show you, or anyone else their propiertary dyno graphs. go talk to some of the guys in the engine shops, they will tell you.
Yes I am. All I hear is talking. No proof.

If I told you that I know for a fact that Flowmaster's will gain 50 hp and you'll get 35 MPG in your truck, are you going to run out and get some? I won't show you any proof, just take my word.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
Are you kidding me? So if dale earnhardt sr was here he wouldnt be allowed to say what kyle busch is and isnt good at?
Grasping at straws again.

Dale Sr. ( God rest his soul ) isn't racing a whole new platform of car and having the sucess Kyle is.

Gordon has YET to prove himself with the COT.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ian51279
If I told you that I know for a fact that Flowmaster's will gain 50 hp and you'll get 35 MPG in your truck, are you going to run out and get some? I won't show you any proof, just take my word.
You will get more from a Turbonator FYI........
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Grasping at straws again.

Dale Sr. ( God rest his soul ) isn't racing a whole new platform of car and having the sucess Kyle is.

Gordon has YET to prove himself with the COT.










OH Okay.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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OH Okay.
How many wins does Gordon have with the COT again?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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How many wins does Gordon have with the COT again?
I could tell you, but i was wondering have you forgotten how to count pictures? Use your fingers, not your toes.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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looks like 3 wins at least for gordon. with the cot that really good. I would say he's proved himself
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
I could tell you, but i was wondering have you forgotten how to count pictures? Use your fingers, not your toes.
Wow, your self-ownage is commendable.

Speaking of counting toes, how did you fit all 5 toes and the rest of the foot in your mouth?

Last time I checked.....5 wins is better than 3
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
How many races has Jeff Gordon won this year?

Don't get me wrong, Jeff is having a successful career, but until he can outperform Busch, ( this year ) he is hardly in the position ( not pun intended ) to be commenting on another driver who is basically owning everyone this year.

Talent IS hanging on with that speed....and WINNING
give me a break. Jeff Gordon is a hell of a lot more qualified to make a comment about Kyle than anyone else on that track Sunday, and sure more qualified than you are.

Furthermore, Jeff was giving Kyle a compliment. A successful career? LOL. Kyle Busch goes to bed every night and dreams of one day being as successful as Gordon.

Kyle Busch is a talented driver, but anyone that thinks he has more talent than Gordon is smoking crack.

Kyle is also a punk at times on the track. Talk to the guys that race against him. They are the ones that are qualified to make that comment, and a good majority of them feel that way.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by harleydude78
looks like 3 wins at least for gordon. with the cot that really good. I would say he's proved himself
So Busch has 5 so far THIS YEAR. What does that say using your logic.

And no, I'm still not a fan, but I'm smart enough to give credit where credit is due.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Wow, your self-ownage is commendable.

Speaking of counting toes, how did you fit all 5 toes and the rest of the foot in your mouth?

Last time I checked.....5 wins is better than 3
OH! so two wins makes him more proven in the COT then gordon, especially including the lucky win this past sunday thanks to his car pitting at a certain time that allowed him to stay out? Do you think if he started 25th every restart he still would have won? Oh wait, toyota is almighty.


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what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gipraw
Kyle Busch is a talented driver, but anyone that thinks he has more talent than Gordon is smoking crack.
But you have the credentials to make a statement like this?

Right?

Originally Posted by Gipraw
Kyle is also a punk at times on the track. Talk to the guys that race against him. They are the ones that are qualified to make that comment, and a good majority of them feel that way.
So this comes from YOUR EXPERIENCE with talking to the other drivers that have raced against him this year?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
OH! so two wins makes him more proven in the COT then gordon, especially including the lucky win this past sunday thanks to his car pitting at a certain time that allowed him to stay out? Do you think if he started 25th every restart he still would have won? Oh wait, toyota is almighty.
Given the circumstances, yes he is more proven than Gordon. New team, new manufacturer, new crew chief, and new car platform.


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what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down. what goes up must come down.
I can't wait to here you guys bitch when Joey Logano breaks thru.......
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Yes I am. All I hear is talking. No proof.

If I told you that I know for a fact that Flowmaster's will gain 50 hp and you'll get 35 MPG in your truck, are you going to run out and get some? I won't show you any proof, just take my word.
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't make it so.

It isn't just me saying it. Several beat writers have written about it. Several people that were at the test have talked about it several times during various parts of race coverage. Just because no one has plastered the dyno graphs all over the TV doesn't make it so. No one showed you the illegal wing mounts on the 70, are you going to argue that nothing was wrong with them because you haven't seen a picture of the infraction?

the toyota motors are up on HP compared to all the other motors. about 10 HP on Hendrick, 15 or so on RCR and slightly more on Rousch/Yates.

The teams have made some gains this year, but so has toyota, so the gap has stayed about the same.

JGR builds their own engines, TRD builds the rest, but they are all the same, using the combined design of TRD and JGR.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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I can't wait to here you guys bitch when Joey Logano breaks thru.......
Maybe you'll find something new to make senseless debates about, instead of something like NASCAR that you have no idea what you are talking, nor have any right to say half the things you are saying. But thats okay! you'll keep talking and telling us that we have no right saying anything!

maybe one of these days youll succumb to a heart attack or a stroke from this stupid "debating". What is it SMIGGS? Is this the only thing that gets you hard anymore?
 
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