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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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there you go again trying to cloud the issue with you silly little facts and reasonable arguments just stop it will ya
I know, I know. I'm sure there is a rule somewhere that you are not allowed to contradict someone by bringing up a post from another thread! I have broken the rules and continue to contradict BHibbs. I should stop and give him a free pass to say what he wants when he wants. From now on it is OK for BHibbs to be a flip flopper and we are not allowed to call him on it.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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In one thread you say McCain is a liberal. In this one you say McCain will be 4 more of Bush. It can't be both... if McCain is Liberal his policies differ from Bush's; unless you think Bush is also a Liberal.
Bush is WAYYY too liberal for me. Especially on Immigration, Spending. Has Abortion been outlawed?? He instituted the biggest Government health program since Medicare with this Crazy Drug program...

 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Bush is WAYYY too liberal for me. Especially on Immigration, Spending. Has Abortion been outlawed?? He instituted the biggest Government health program since Medicare with this Crazy Drug program...

OK... we've pinned you down on this one. You say Bush is not a Liberal. Now, is McCain a Liberal in your opinion? If he is a Liberal, like you've posted before, how can he represent 4 more years of a Bush term? I find it hard to believe that a Liberal would have similar policy approaches to George Bush.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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there you go again trying to cloud the issue with you silly little facts and reasonable arguments just stop it will ya
good one po18911!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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The reason Obama says when McCain is elected it will be another Bush term because that's all he can come up with.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Abortion is a religious issue. Last I looked the Constitution only guarantees religious freedom, it does not mandate religion. If we mandated religion, we would be no better than the Islamic countries.

I don't believe in God; but, I still think abortion is murder. Abortion is a MORAL issue. I don't base my vote on one issue though. I don't take into account a candidates view on abortion unless everything else is equal.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
Bush is WAYYY too liberal for me. Especially on Immigration, Spending. Has Abortion been outlawed?? He instituted the biggest Government health program since Medicare with this Crazy Drug program...

You are not making any sense at all if bush is wayyyyyy to liberal for you WTF are you doing voting for obama mama thats like saying your a vegan and a peta member and then walking up to a live cow and start biting chunks out of it are you just trying to stir the pot or are you really that dumb please clear this up for me if your just stirring the pot fine I'll make sure I don't pull anymore punches on you (please see keith olberman thread for clarification) or do we need more remedial lessons on the facts of life
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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You are not making any sense at all if bush is wayyyyyy to liberal for you WTF are you doing voting for obama mama thats like saying your a vegan and a peta member and then walking up to a live cow and start biting chunks out of it are you just trying to stir the pot or are you really that dumb please clear this up for me if your just stirring the pot fine I'll make sure I don't pull anymore punches on you (please see keith olberman thread for clarification) or do we need more remedial lessons on the facts of life
I'm sorry, Who Are you?? I see you just joined a month ago or something?

Don't come in here and ask who I am. People here KNOW who I am. I've been debating with Wittom, Sknr, Thumper, Crazed, Odin, Stealth etc. Literally for YEARS.

There's 5 years of posts of mine you can read if you really want to figure out what I'm all about..

Simple Rule, don't call people names and "dumb" and stuff. We debate here, but this isn't Personal. I'd have a beer with any one of these guys..



 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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OK... we've pinned you down on this one. You say Bush is not a Liberal. Now, is McCain a Liberal in your opinion? If he is a Liberal, like you've posted before, how can he represent 4 more years of a Bush term? I find it hard to believe that a Liberal would have similar policy approaches to George Bush.
You should re-read that. I Said Bush IS Liberal. McCain would continue the Same things Bush is doing now.

Spend Spend Spend, weak on Immigration, screw up the Economy, Not protecting our borders, etc.

Why vote for Obama? No, he's not my First choice. But I'm ready for a Different approach as I can't handle 4 more Years on the same path. I'm not a blind follower.

If you Continue to Screw up, I'll Fire you. I don't care if you have an R or a D after your name. I'm a "Results" guy, and so far the results have been pretty BAD lately.

Did you hear more people died in Afghanistan than Iraq? We can't even handle The TALIBAN. Where's Osama Bin Laden at? The REAL Reason for 9/11!
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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You should re-read that. I Said Bush IS Liberal. McCain would continue the Same things Bush is doing now.

Spend Spend Spend, weak on Immigration, screw up the Economy, Not protecting our borders, etc.

Why vote for Obama? No, he's not my First choice. But I'm ready for a Different approach as I can't handle 4 more Years on the same path. I'm not a blind follower.

If you Continue to Screw up, I'll Fire you. I don't care if you have an R or a D after your name. I'm a "Results" guy, and so far the results have been pretty BAD lately.

Did you hear more people died in Afghanistan than Iraq? We can't even handle The TALIBAN. Where's Osama Bin Laden at? The REAL Reason for 9/11!
You are the only person I have ever heard call Bush a Liberal. Maybe you should convince all the true Liberal Dems that they have the same Liberal views as Bush. Don't think that argument would go too far. Bush a Liberal.... wow!
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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I'm sorry, Who Are you?? I see you just joined a month ago or something?

Don't come in here and ask who I am. People here KNOW who I am. I've been debating with Wittom, Sknr, Thumper, Crazed, Odin, Stealth etc. Literally for YEARS.

There's 5 years of posts of mine you can read if you really want to figure out what I'm all about..

Simple Rule, don't call people names and "dumb" and stuff. We debate here, but this isn't Personal. I'd have a beer with any one of these guys..



Just make sure Religion, Politics, etc doesn't come up during this whole beer drinking thing. We'd have to set up some guidlines for conversation... Truck, women, ..... and women who drive trucks. There's a start.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
I'm sorry, Who Are you?? I see you just joined a month ago or something?

Don't come in here and ask who I am. People here KNOW who I am. I've been debating with Wittom, Sknr, Thumper, Crazed, Odin, Stealth etc. Literally for YEARS.

There's 5 years of posts of mine you can read if you really want to figure out what I'm all about..

Simple Rule, don't call people names and "dumb" and stuff. We debate here, but this isn't Personal. I'd have a beer with any one of these guys..



I never said I wouldn't have a beer with you, as for when I joined that has less to do with this issue than anything, I do apologize, I didn't mean to call you dumb, I meant to say that you are all over the place with no real position other than McCain bad obama good which to me is a ignorant stance. I am trying to figure out where you are coming from no real conservative can vote for obama it makes most of us sick to vote for McCain but he is less offensive to us than obama. yet you called bush to liberal, which he is but no where near obama so please school me on your reasoning oh great and mighty bhibbs teach me the way of the 5year poster

I did let my fingers get away from me for a moment please accept my apology it is sincere, and I do have fun debating you, I'm just trying to figure if your being sarcastic when you fawn all over obama because your posts do not reflect sarcasm and when you go 180 it tends to set people off guard OK
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
You are the only person I have ever heard call Bush a Liberal. Maybe you should convince all the true Liberal Dems that they have the same Liberal views as Bush. Don't think that argument would go too far. Bush a Liberal.... wow!
How can you say Bush is a Conservative when he's Spent more money than Clinton.

When Illegal Immigrants are a BIGGER Problem than they were 7 years ago.

When he started a entirely New Welfare System under the name "Katrina".

Our Military is so stretched we Couldn't invade Iran even if we HAD to without a draft and Soldiers have to put their OWN Money towards armor for their beat up Hum V.



I can go On and On...



I'm sorry, but he's not a Conservative in My book....
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
I'm sorry, Who Are you?? I see you just joined a month ago or something?

Don't come in here and ask who I am. People here KNOW who I am. I've been debating with Wittom, Sknr, Thumper, Crazed, Odin, Stealth etc. Literally for YEARS.

There's 5 years of posts of mine you can read if you really want to figure out what I'm all about..

Simple Rule, don't call people names and "dumb" and stuff. We debate here, but this isn't Personal. I'd have a beer with any one of these guys..



I'm popular.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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I never said I wouldn't have a beer with you, as for when I joined that has less to do with this issue than anything, I do apologize, I didn't mean to call you dumb, I meant to say that you are all over the place with no real position other than McCain bad obama good which to me is a ignorant stance. I am trying to figure out where you are coming from no real conservative can vote for obama it makes most of us sick to vote for McCain but he is less offensive to us than obama. yet you called bush to liberal, which he is but no where near obama so please school me on your reasoning oh great and mighty bhibbs teach me the way of the 5year poster

I did let my fingers get away from me for a moment please accept my apology it is sincere, and I do have fun debating you, I'm just trying to figure if your being sarcastic when you fawn all over obama because your posts do not reflect sarcasm and when you go 180 it tends to set people off guard OK

No Apology needed..

I think if you'd re-read my posts, you wouldn't see much "Fawning" over Obama.. Sadly, we're ALL looking again at Bad Candidates. We're just Debating who's the Worst! (it's Sad, really... )
 
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