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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
McClellan's at the end of a LONG list of people to finally come out and tell the truth...
First, good point Odin.

BHibbs, I got you. Now it's the truth because it's in line with the assumptions that you, and the radical left in this country have made. The radical left has never really had much need for fact or reason.

I hope that McClellan and the radical left in this country are right about the Bush administration. Otherwise it's going to come down on them like a ton of bricks. They'll look like Monica under the desk in the oval office with Bill. That's not egg on her face.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
BHibbs is one of the more traditionally conservative people on here (F150Online).
I beg to differ.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Read some of his posts.

George W. Bush is not a true conservative.

You might want to go back a little further in your reading. BHibbs has always been a lefty that thinks he's a moderate. Truth is all of us have some contradictions in our games. I don't have a problem with gay people and I am an atheist. Still I hold mostly conservative positions. I just come to them from a different place than most.
 

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Old May 30, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Soon enough Obama will be in thanks in large part to Bush and the Iraq fiasco. Closing in on a trillion dollars down the war rat hole, meanwhile the illegals are talking over our country. And people call Bush a conservative.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
A lot of people from the Bush Admin have fallen from grace. Fallen far. It wouldn't really surprise me if this is administration is about as screwed up as Nixon and his paranoia.

What sucks is that I can't really think of a recent presidential administration that HASN'T had a scandal of sorts. Maybe Carter? The Iran Hostage thing happened under him, but wasn't a scandal. hmm.
Craz3d.. I have over looked much of what you said.. you have some good points... but damn man!! Your seriously saying carter did no wrong? Dude, you need a serious reality check. I don't know what world you live in, but man do you have some misconceptions. I lived thru that crap. It was no picnic.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Soon enough Obama will be in thanks in large part to Bush and the Iraq fiasco. Closing in on a trillion dollars down the war rat hole, meanwhile the illegals are talking over our country. And people call Bush a conservative.
Bush's fiasco? While the war was initially mismanaged, it is going quite well now, and we are making some serious progress. I agree with the illegal point. I am in total disagreement with bush as far as illegals go.. but that doesn't equal what is going on in Iraq. The Iraq war was right, we are winning, and we need to be there indefinitely for security. Have you heard? Less than 2% of Americans even know the name of a service man or woman? How does that affect most Americans? IT DOESN'T. War costs? It is a pittance compared to the wasteful social spending and the spending on illegal aliens.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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There are a LOT of Conservatives that think this war was a HUGE mistake.

"Bush was intent on confronting Saddam Hussein from the beginning of the debate on Iraq "

Looking back, didn't this seem Overwhelmingly obvious?

Bush Fired anybody that "wasn't on board" (Even Colin Powell!). He Ignored the facts of what the war would cost, Managed the entire thing WRONG, and created the mess we're in now. Meanwhile not Catching OBL.

He "sold" us on going to war, distorting Facts, and misleading the American public to do it.. That's Wrong.

I Voted for Bush! But I'm not going to Blindly Follow the party and ignore the facts around this Fiasco.

I'm Especially not going to call Every Single person that opposes this war a Liberal Whack Job..
 

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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Soon enough Obama will be in thanks in large part to Bush and the Iraq fiasco. Closing in on a trillion dollars down the war rat hole, meanwhile the illegals are talking over our country.
Hell, look at it that way and I'm almost ready to try out communism for a while.

I'm not a religious guy here but, for Christs sake, how in the world is Obama going to make ANYTHING better? He's a racist pig! How could you surmise anything else considering the people he's aligned himself with over the past couple decades?

If you think that Obama is a viable alternative to Bush, we're on the road to the end of the United States of America as we know it.

Electing Obama for spite doesn't seem reasonable to me. You?
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wittom
Electing Obama for spite doesn't seem reasonable to me. You?
No. I was just pointing out what may now happen.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
I Voted for Bush!...

He "sold" us on going to war, distorting Facts, and misleading the American public to do it..
So, you're admitting you're a dullard?

Sorry, I refuse to admit that I've been manipulated into believing that our military men and women are fighting and dying for a just cause. If that's the way that it's proven to be then I will admit my ignorance, but just because some people have a hair across their *** doesn't mean that I have to concede to being a dullard who was manipulated into believing that terrorists don't follow the rules that the USA has come up with. They've proven that to me. I'll settle for an imperfect administration that doesn't ignore, like previous administrations have, the threat that radical terrorists pose.

Try employing those tactics in an American city with our domestic, thug, terrorists. See where that gets you.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Screw50
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

you damn well read up at obama comments. He will make bush seem like a genius to you bush haters.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
There are a LOT of Conservatives that think this war was a HUGE mistake.

"Bush was intent on confronting Saddam Hussein from the beginning of the debate on Iraq "

Looking back, didn't this seem Overwhelmingly obvious?

Bush Fired anybody that "wasn't on board" (Even Colin Powell!). He Ignored the facts of what the war would cost, Managed the entire thing WRONG, and created the mess we're in now. Meanwhile not Catching OBL.

He "sold" us on going to war, distorting Facts, and misleading the American public to do it.. That's Wrong.

I Voted for Bush! But I'm not going to Blindly Follow the party and ignore the facts around this Fiasco.

I'm Especially not going to call Every Single person that opposes this war a Liberal Whack Job..
hibbs your so full of ****. real conservitives know how imperitive it was to get rid of sadam. It worked. The surge worked. We are making real progress. Get past the liberal media and see the truth. Don't be such a sheep.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Screw50
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in...in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong." Barack H. Obama - Memorial Day 2008
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
Bush's fiasco? While the war was initially mismanaged, it is going quite well now, and we are making some serious progress. I agree with the illegal point. I am in total disagreement with bush as far as illegals go.. but that doesn't equal what is going on in Iraq. The Iraq war was right, we are winning, and we need to be there indefinitely for security. Have you heard? Less than 2% of Americans even know the name of a service man or woman? How does that affect most Americans? IT DOESN'T. War costs? It is a pittance compared to the wasteful social spending and the spending on illegal aliens.
You should try this speech on the families who have lost a family member in this war, and not to warfare itself, but suicide.

One question....

Why aren't you fighting for your country? I have nothing wrong with being patriotic to your country, but there is a fine line between patriotism and ignorance, also blind brand loyality....

Please, save me the "your Canadian and not American" rant....
 
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