A good point on the benefits of an SOHC would be the 3-valve 4.6 and 5.4s Ford is using now. They definitely show the merits of what I'm saying.

 

enough with the BS, just get the GT500KR. BOOM.

 

3.543" stroke vs 4.17" stroke. The 5.4 has the 4.6 all the way through the curve, no replacement for displacement. My cousin is placing his GT500 order promptly, price is $45k. Look at big volume dealers, you will find some that are very close to list.

 

As a Ford Certified tech I will tell you the 3v's are junk compared to the 2v and 4v. Ford has wasted money in the 3v design. The 4v is superior, and the 3v's do not outperform their 2v predecessors. Ford has so many problems with the 3v's. Many techs I have spoken with agree that the 3v was a mistake. The 3v has no merits in my book!

 

I want to see the roush stay any where close to the gt500ss. But anyway like I said before and you have ignored me, find me a 4.6 powered mustang laying down the numbers the gt500 was in my vid with similar mods. Go ahead I will wait.

 

Well, we are talking stock for stock. Stock for stock the GT500 doesn't have a massive advantage in a drag race, and would lose big time on any type of road course. It would most likely come down to the driver in a drag race as well. Also, the 427R starts at 43k not 50k. It's a 15k package for a GT. We could talk all day about problems or what people think about this engine or that. None of that really changes anything we're talking about here anyway.

Also, show me where I said the 4.6 beats the 5.4. I never said that at all. I was comparing SOHC to DOHC.

Now, if you want to discuss modifying them and money isn't an object then there is no question the GT500 has more potential. But, I can take any GT and put a Stage 3 Roush kit on it. How many people would be willing to take a GT500 and then modify it anyway. I'd say most people would buy the GT500 and save it. You'd be better off starting from scratch and building your own at that point. You would ruin the value of the GT500. I'm not saying I don't like the GT500, it just doesn't appeal to me as a tuner car. Now, if I had the money I'd get the GT500KR Super Snake and call it a day. No tuning necessary.

The more I think about it, if I wanted to build the ultimate Mustang, why not start with the 5.0 Cammer?

 

Ok im not saying that the 427R wasn't faster on a road course, I was talking about drag racing. If they are close to the same price and close to the same speed, then why wouldn't you take the one that is more collectible? It seemed like you were saying that the roush was faster and would be faster no matter what, I agree that stock for stock the 427 will outrun the gt500 on a road course, the gt500 really wasn't intended for road course racing in stock form it weighs way to much. It is more of a drag street race car, and it does that very well.

 

So you want me to find a 4.6 Mustang that can do a 9-sec 1/4 mile? That would be too easy. Of course, all the 4.6 Mustangs I've seen do that were DOHC. That car in that video has a lot more than a few simple mods. I went to their site and the Stage 4 with SC upgrade is $6,875.00. That is not bad for a kit but doesn't include labor.

The car in the vid was incredible though.

 

If I just wanted a car to drive and feel good in the GT500 would definitely do the trick. But, I could never aquire a GT500 for MSRP first of all. Second, I have a difficult time buying a car and leaving it stock. That would ruin the value of the GT500 and I would be stretching it to buy one anyway. Also, I am not interested in a performance car that is only good in a straight line and on an even surface. For me, the best part of driving a performance car is when the road curves. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

If I were a millionaire I'm sure I'd already have one of each!

Also, a little comic relief but in order to run circles there would have to be curves!

 

Amazing!


Yes it does.

Saleens' have never tickled my fancy.

I've heard a very similar tune whistled by someone whos opinion I respect highly...

 

We're waiting for joshmac4.6 to reply.... but I think he didn't think he'd get called out on his BS, so he's now dodging the question/answer.

 

I will agree with you, the only reason I don't care about extreme cornering is that if I want to do that I will just get on my bike. I love the curves also but a stock gt will take curves as fast as I feel safe in a car, however I have never ridden in a highly modified mustang in corners so maybe it would change my mind. I know that I love the twistys on my Valkyrie, there is nothing like scraping pegs and rolling on the throttle. I also agree on the one of each, that makes me smile just thinking about it.

 

If I could afford to friggin buy true duals for my fifty it would be nice let alone a saleen, roush, or etc! Screw you guys!




Pnut-Butter-Jelly Time

 

Something just happened in my pants.

 

Well, I had the FRPP suspension on my '06 GT. It made a huge difference in stability and reduced wheel hop. The S197s come from the factory with a 3-link rear-end setup. There are several add-ons you can buy that further improve that setup and reduce wheel hop even further. There is a reason why these cars cleaned house in SCCA last year. In stock trim though, they leave much to be desired IMO.

I had an '03 Honda CBR 954 RR. I loved that bike. Drove it hard most of the time. The problem is I live in Naples, FL and these people here just can't drive. I lost a couple friends in seperate incidents and decided to sell it. I still miss it on a regular basis.