Roush Mustang 427R - worth the $$$... ?

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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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That 427R will run circles around a GT500. The Roush is an all-around package. The GT500 suspension is virtually the same as a regular GT. The GT500 is an overrated overpriced collectors car. The 427R was made to be driven and driven hard. I would take a Steeda or Roush Mustang over the GT500 or Saleen anyday. This is coming from someone who sold their '06 GT to buy my current F150. I have spent hours on hours reading up on all the performance Mustangs and believe me, if you do the homework, the Steeda and Roush are definitely the best.
A stock gt will take turns as fast as I want to, I am not concerned about doing 125 around a corner. I want to go fast straight, and the gt 500 is the fastest at that. Plus you can easily change the suspension on the gt500 and still have the Shelby and outrun the other ones in the corners too.
If money was no object I would be buying a gt500SS with 720HP, to bad there is no way in hell I could afford it.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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http://www.mustangblog.com/index.php...s281-shootout/
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Thats so 6 posts ago.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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A stock gt will take turns as fast as I want to, I am not concerned about doing 125 around a corner. I want to go fast straight, and the gt 500 is the fastest at that. Plus you can easily change the suspension on the gt500 and still have the Shelby and outrun the other ones in the corners too.
If money was no object I would be buying a gt500SS with 720HP, to bad there is no way in hell I could afford it.
You would think that is the case with 500hp but it's not. The GT500 0-60 has been proven at 4.8-4.9 seconds and I've never seen any faster times than that. There's just so much more to it than hp numbers. The DOHC does not respond as quickly as an SOHC does and that does have an effect on the power curve. Just watch that video and you'll see just how impressive the 427R is.

Not to mention, the suspension improvements encompass way more than cornering. The S197 is a solid axle and that causes inherent issues in handling. This includes going in a straight line. The Roush and Steeda suspension packages do an outstanding job of taming the live axle and it is street and track proven.
 

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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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The 500 may have the same strut/solid axle setup, but spring rates and sway bars are different, plus the 4 vented discs will bring you to a halt. But the 427R can't "run circles" around what it can't catch. And a stock 3v Sohc 4.6L, with the cheap powdered metal rods with a roushcharger bolted on vs. a Built 5.4 Dohc, that is setup just for the Eaton that sits between the "V". The choice is clear to me, the 500 is def. a better car, and value.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Overpriced???? 500 hp 5.4L DOHC 6 spd, with a base price of $42,000. 420ish RWHP stock?? And the quoted gains by K&N of 57hp have been proven, close to 50hp from just a intake. Overpriced????
If you're talking about a GT500 and you can buy one at list price then hurry up and do it.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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That 427R will run circles around a GT500. The Roush is an all-around package. The GT500 suspension is virtually the same as a regular GT. The GT500 is an overrated overpriced collectors car. The 427R was made to be driven and driven hard. I would take a Steeda or Roush Mustang over the GT500 or Saleen anyday. This is coming from someone who sold their '06 GT to buy my current F150. I have spent hours on hours reading up on all the performance Mustangs and believe me, if you do the homework, the Steeda and Roush are definitely the best.



 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by joshmac4.6
The 500 may have the same strut/solid axle setup, but spring rates and sway bars are different, plus the 4 vented discs will bring you to a halt. But the 427R can't "run circles" around what it can't catch. And a stock 3v Sohc 4.6L, with the cheap powdered metal rods with a roushcharger bolted on vs. a Built 5.4 Dohc, that is setup just for the Eaton that sits between the "V". The choice is clear to me, the 500 is def. a better car, and value.
Not true at all. There have been several comparisons that show the GT500 handling is not any more impressive than a stock GT. A built SOHC will outperform a built DOHC in many ways as well. It's all about building a package not just a bunch of specs on paper. To get a GT500 and build it to perform as an all around racer would require a lot more cash than the Roush.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Watch the video I posted and then find me a roush putting out those numbers with just the mods that car has. Even if you could find one it would be much closer to its limit than the 5.4 is. Im not saying the roush isn't a bad *** car, but the dohc 5.4 has much more potintial than the sohc 4.6.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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$7000 is alot of cash, the 500 is priced around $42-$43k(compared to $50k), thats a plenty to send that little roush packing. And I don't know where you are getting your info that a SOHC will outperform a DOHC, but it's a little off. And with a good set of meats, the 500's are running 4.4's-4.6's stock, and throw in $2000 for a tune and light mods, and your going to be 500+rwhp, keep up in the roush. And with the other $5000??? Well you can only imagine the results.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by joshmac4.6
$7000 is alot of cash, the 500 is priced around $42-$43k(compared to $50k), thats a plenty to send that little roush packing. And I don't know where you are getting your info that a SOHC will outperform a DOHC, but it's a little off. And with a good set of meats, the 500's are running 4.4's-4.6's stock, and throw in $2000 for a tune and light mods, and your going to be 500+rwhp, keep up in the roush. And with the other $5000??? Well you can only imagine the results.
I just want to know where you can get the GT500 for list price? They are 15k plus over MSRP everywhere I've seen them.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joshmac4.6
$7000 is alot of cash, the 500 is priced around $42-$43k(compared to $50k), thats a plenty to send that little roush packing. And I don't know where you are getting your info that a SOHC will outperform a DOHC, but it's a little off. And with a good set of meats, the 500's are running 4.4's-4.6's stock, and throw in $2000 for a tune and light mods, and your going to be 500+rwhp, keep up in the roush. And with the other $5000??? Well you can only imagine the results.
I didn't say it would outperform. What I said is that for certain performance characteristics an SOHC mod motor has advantages over a DOHC mod motor. It's all in the power curve. The SOHC picks up power lower in the power curve than a DOHC. Of course you will get to a hp point with the DOHC that it doesn't matter. The point is that an SOHC will perform incredibly when set up properly. There is also the issue of weight. The GT500 is very porky compared to any of the other Mustang performance vehicles from Steeda, Roush or Saleen. The argument about only worrying about going in a straight line is flawed as well. Drive both cars on most roads and you'll immediately appreciate the difference the Roush provides. If you've ever experienced a Mustang when the rear end starts to walk on you you would understand. It's normal for people to only think about pure hp and paper stats. They don't always translate into real world driving experiences.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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It's all in who you know and where you look!
I'd like to see it. I could find a few people who'd be interested.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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If you spin the tires enough on any vehicle it will walk on you. Why can't you answear my question above?
 
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