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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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What the hell? He does have a right to play in the league, as do you and everyone else, it is just that obviously you and me and many other people aint good enough to play in the NFL. You have the right to do whatever you want within the law.
People confuse rights, privileges, and opportunities.

He does not have a right to play in the NFL. He had the opportunity and the privilege. He has lost both.

Your rights are clearly defined in the Constitution beyond that you have privileges and opportunities.

He does not have a right to play.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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I have absolutely nothing to add...I am just laughing at Dave once again. Thanks Dave!

Actually, I do have something to add. On the news, its usually some trailer trash hillbilly that cant believe his pit bull ate his kid....
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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The dogs are not agressive towards humans. Thats a fact. If they were, they wouldnt be able to get into the ring with the dogs. I have owned pitbulls before and in general pitbulls are agressive towards any small animal unless they are raised with cats or other dogs and become used to them from a small age. But they are not generaly agressive towards humans.
LMAO.. Dave, you're killing me. I have also owned Pitbulls, many of them. None of them were aggressive to another smaller dog. I did have one that did like to go after bigger dogs but thats it. Most dog fighters inject their dogs with steroids and it has the same effect on a dog as a human. Roid Rage effects them and they don't care if you're a human or a dog. Sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about.

PS: Kids, this is why you don't do drugs.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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my next show?
Can't figure it out? Your comedy routine. It's pretty dang funny!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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blah blah blah... You people speak of dogs like human beings, grow up, they aint. He did not kill anyone and should not be treated as so.
So maybe grow up was not the right choice of words for you to use. Most adults are able to distinguish between right and wrong. Fighting a dog for your enjoyment is wrong. And last time I check 23 months in jail is a he!! of a lot less time then you get for killing a human.

-confucius once say it is better to stay quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean4X4Machine
What the hell? He does have a right to play in the league,
Wrong. Our rights are plainly written in the Constitution of the United States. Nowhere in said Constitution is there anything about playing in the NFL


Originally Posted by Mean4X4Machine

You have the right to do whatever you want within the law.
Uh, no. See above


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he will lose MILLIONS in the time he has to be out of the league not playing.
There is a difference between "losing" and "not getting"

He has to earn his pay, he's only losing his chance at playing, that's all.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
People confuse rights, privileges, and opportunities.

He does not have a right to play in the NFL. He had the opportunity and the privilege. He has lost both.

Your rights are clearly defined in the Constitution beyond that you have privileges and opportunities.

He does not have a right to play.
So you dont have a right to be a doctor, lawyer, nurse or whatever the hell you do? You go to college to be somethin, and you dont get to continue to do that because you mess up? He does not have a life sentence and you lose all your rights when you go to jail, but when you get out you are considered a free man, or is that not how it works anymore
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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LMAO.. Dave, you're killing me. I have also owned Pitbulls, many of them. None of them were aggressive to another smaller dog. I did have one that did like to go after bigger dogs but thats it. Most dog fighters inject their dogs with steroids and it has the same effect on a dog as a human. Roid Rage effects them and they don't care if you're a human or a dog. Sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about.

PS: Kids, this is why you don't do drugs.
Roid rage is also another missunderstood myth. It depends on how much, how often, and what type of steroid you take.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean4X4Machine
So you dont have a right to be a doctor, lawyer, nurse or whatever the hell you do? You go to college to be somethin, and you dont get to continue to do that because you mess up? He does not have a life sentence and you lose all your rights when you go to jail, but when you get out you are considered a free man, or is that not how it works anymore
See you are getting it. You do not have a right to be a doctor. You have a right for the opportunity perhaps but that is all.

He has rightfully lost his opportunity and privileges for acting like an animal.

Hey maybe he can play in the arena league.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean4X4Machine
So you dont have a right to be a doctor, lawyer, nurse or whatever the hell you do? You go to college to be somethin, and you dont get to continue to do that because you mess up? He does not have a life sentence and you lose all your rights when you go to jail, but when you get out you are considered a free man, or is that not how it works anymore
Vick signed a contract and was in breech of it when convicted of his crime.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean4X4Machine
So you dont have a right to be a doctor, lawyer, nurse or whatever the hell you do?

Correct. Like he said, one has the opportunity, but not the "right"


ETA: Dang, I'm slow today. Keep getting beat to the punch LOL
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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I am sure the Canadians will let him play there.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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So maybe grow up was not the right choice of words for you to use. Most adults are able to distinguish between right and wrong. Fighting a dog for your enjoyment is wrong. And last time I check 23 months in jail is a he!! of a lot less time then you get for killing a human.

-confucius once say it is better to stay quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
What? Where did I say it was right to fight dogs? And I said people act like dogs are humans. Damn dude, read the the whole thing and go back to the little confucius saying yourself man. Seriously, what the hell
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Roid rage is also another missunderstood myth. It depends on how much, how often, and what type of steroid you take.
Dave, you're a weird character.
 
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