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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Why is it customary to tip?

This is something that I have never figured out before.... Why we have to pay on top of them getting paid from their employer?

I know that they serve you but when was the last time you tipped the person who sold you a part at the local auto parts store who looked up the number and took his time to find your part, or the last time you tipped the cashier at walmart
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Most employers pay the wait staff less and count on the tips to balance out. So they might be paid 4 bucks hourly and the rest in tips.

It's also a way to reward good service and punish bad. Then the restaurant is better off when the crappy ones have to find others jobs.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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It's also a way to reward good service and punish bad. Then the restaurant is better off when the crappy ones have to find others jobs.
ok but how many people tip the guy who pumps their gas, cleans your windshield, and offers to check your oil right away?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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ok but how many people tip the guy who pumps their gas, cleans your windshield, and offers to check your oil right away?
You have never waited tables have ya? Whats the nicect place you have ever eaten? Chilis doesn't count....
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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i kinda think tipping is a bullcrap thing too. i mean i always tip pretty good i think, but wow, if you dont like crap dead end jobs, then go to school and dont be fool, as mr t would say. I am sure some guy will come on here and says he makes more money then me blah blah waiting tables. its only because he lucked out and got a job somewhere where people "feel" like they got to tip really good because they are in a fancy pants restaurant.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
ok but how many people tip the guy who pumps their gas, cleans your windshield, and offers to check your oil right away?
Waiting tables is an ART. Not Chilis, but an upscale Restuarant. The waiter is part of the experience. You can show anyone how to pump gas, clean a windshield, and check oil...If ya tell me that anyone can wait, you don't have a grasp on whats invloved. The tasks that you mentioned, are not necessarily service oriented, and do not require TACT, and SOCIAL GRACE. Sorry to come off snobby, but IMO everyone should have to wait tables. It teaches humility and how to tend to anothers needs or desires. That is what why you tip. Not to brag, but I make as much as lower echilon doctors. Not because I am smarter than them, but because in sales a need or alleviation of a pain is met. Waiting has helped in that department.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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i kinda think tipping is a bullcrap thing too. i mean i always tip pretty good i think, but wow, if you dont like crap dead end jobs, then go to school and dont be fool, as mr t would say. I am sure some guy will come on here and says he makes more money then me blah blah waiting tables. its only because he lucked out and got a job somewhere where people "feel" like they got to tip really good because they are in a fancy pants restaurant.
Sorry, but if a waiter makes more coin than you...It is not dumb luck. To serve high income customers in a "fancy pants restaurant" one must have good verbal skills and social grace.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Waiting tables is an ART. Not Chilis, but an upscale Restuarant. The waiter is part of the experience. You can show anyone how to pump gas, clean a windshield, and check oil...If ya tell me that anyone can wait, you don't have a grasp on whats invloved. The tasks that you mentioned, are not necessarily service oriented, and do not require TACT, and SOCIAL GRACE. Sorry to come off snobby, but IMO everyone should have to wait tables. It teaches humility and how to tend to anothers needs or desires. That is what why you tip. Not to brag, but I make as much as lower echilon doctors. Not because I am smarter than them, but because in sales a need or alleviation of a pain is met. Waiting has helped in that department.
OK......... then why not work the tip into the price for the food and pay your employees accordingly.........

What I mean is when you go to one of fancy restaurants and order a $100 steak why not just charge $115 or whatever and your employeer pays you that money
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
OK......... then why not work the tip into the price for the food and pay your employees accordingly.........

What I mean is when you go to one of fancy restaurants and order a $100 steak why not just charge $115 or whatever and your employeer pays you that money
Incentive...What are ya? Communist?

If they did that, what would be the incentive to give you excellent service?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Incentive...What are ya? Communist?

If they did that, what would be the incentive to give you excellent service?
I bet you are a pro union person aren't you....




How about doing a job well done and knowing that you are good at it.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Most restaurant waitstaffs are paid less than minimum wage - the only industry where that is legal. I tip 5 to 10% at a buffet and 15 to 20% at a full service restaurant, depending on the quality of service and what kind of mood I'm in. I tip cabbies, barbers, pizza drivers (as long as the delivery charge is reasonable), and skycaps (unless there is already a service charge for using the skycap).
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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i have waited tables before, bussed tables before, and got out of college and got a job with benefits (401k,health,etc). I havent seen anybody waiting tables get these benefits, I mean somewhere somebody prolly does, but i havent ever heard it before, and I never seen a waiter i ever worked with honestly report what he gotted tipped that night either. All I am saying, its not the smartest career move. I would compare it to being a stripper.
just the circumstances are a little different.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
I bet you are a pro union person aren't you....

How about doing a job well done and knowing that you are good at it.
Thats funny. I am anti-union, and from Texas. My Sister taught school in Pennsylvania...She was the only non union teacher in her district. They let her get away with it because she was Texan, Conservative, and there was not a chance in hell that she was gonna pay the dues...

As to "doing a job well done and knowing that you are good at it"...is a load of crap! I want performance pay. Good at something is subjective...pay based on performance where a certain criteria is surpassed is the boat that I want to be on. For example, I get a yearly salary...Most can live well on said income. Because I do way better than expected, I bring home 2 1/2 times my salary over the course of a year. My company pays my gas, cell phone, home phone, fax, internet, computer, lunch & dinner expenses (IE nice restaurants), hotel, rental car, ect.. I don't get to expense these things and bring home bonuses because I did a good job. I get them because I go earn peoples trust, and teach them to make more money and give better patient care.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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Tipping has many different facets.


The wait staff at the vast majority of eateries are getting sub-minimum wage from the employer and expected to make a living from their own personal service and the rewards the customer gives. I have always gone 20% or more in tipping......a decent couple of steaks at Applebees runs $30.........a $6 tip ain't going to kill ya.

But, there are other kinds of tips. When I've visited NYC, you get hard schooled on the "tip." I came out of the hotel, asked the doorman to hail a cab, in that time I got a phone call that I needed to take and wandered down the sidewalk for quiet and privacy. Being my first time in town I didn't think much of it at the time until I was able to hang-up and walk back to the hotel. As I came back I was getting the evil-eye from my NY-knowing friend and the doorman. Up there, in NYC, doormen are almost like traffic cops..they wear uniforms....have whistles....and really kind of herd traffic on the streets. I had told him to hale a cab (which he promptly did) and held it for us (while holding up some traffic) as I was sauntering down the sidewalk jawing away until the cabby told him he couldn't wait any longer and took off. Well, he had held the cabby promising him a fare and we never showed so the driver took off for the next trick. I didn't know it, but that's kind of a stick in the eye for those guys.....they get a relationship with the cabbies and trade favors. Well, I had just stood the doorman and cabby up and it resulted in the cab driver tearing off disappointed in the doorman who was supposed to know what was going on.


My friend explained it all to me once I got back to the hotel door and I did feel like a real ***. So, I asked the doorman to again hail a cab and once done I gave him a $20 for the trouble we had caused.

Tips mean a whole lot in today's world.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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There's a restaurant we frequent here and I recently found out all the servers MUST pool all their tips, and management gives everyone an equal share.

Soon as I found out I told the owner we're not frequenting their place anymore. The servers were under strict orders to keep that detail a secret, but as always, everything eventually gets out.

There's a couple of servers there who just suck at their job and don't give a crap. Why should they? They are getting the same amount of tips as the people who work hard and go out of their way to do the best job they can.

I refuse to give a tip to some lazy biatch who has a perpetual knot in her face, hence the reason I won't go there anymore.

As far as the OP reason for this post, I agree with him in theory, but in real life, it's not practical.

I often find that the severe cheapskates among us always resort to the "the company shoulld pay them better" arguement, but we all know this isnt how real life works. My in-laws are the same stingy fkers, they won't leave a tip if it means saving their life.

I tip well when the server does an extraordinary job, and I tip ZERO when they do a crappy job.

I retired a few years ago, but last year I started driving cab on the week-ends to make some walking around money, and a way to get out of the house.

About 50% of my income comes from tips, but I work hard for them.

When I pick my car up, I wash the outside, clean the glass, and give the inside a thorough vacuuming, wipe down the doors and dash, and unload about an 1/8 of a can of AXE to get rid of the day driver's BO and cigarette smell.

If a woman or couple are getting into the cab, I jump out and open the doors for them. If they have groceries, I'll load all their stuff into the trunk and unload everything.

I'm well groomed, professional, always take the shortest route, and when there are options, I always ask them which way they would prefer to go.

It's a easy job, but I still try to be as professional as I can, and do my best to leave a good impression for the company I drive for. It's in my best interest for you to call my company again.

The average taxi driver is a lazy, usless, smelly sumbitch, who won't get out of his seat unless you hold a gun to his head, and then they wonder why they don't make much in tips.

If I'm driving a lady home, I won't leave the driveway until I see her safely get inside her house. It's little things like this that help shape a standard in the service industry, and like my dad used to say, even if your a floor sweeper, be the best floor sweeper you can be.

If you take pride in yourself and the job you do, then a tip is warrented.
 
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