Why is it customary to tip?
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Originally Posted by Habibi
There's a restaurant we frequent here and I recently found out all the servers MUST pool all their tips, and management gives everyone an equal share.
Soon as I found out I told the owner we're not frequenting their place anymore. The servers were under strict orders to keep that detail a secret, but as always, everything eventually gets out.
There's a couple of servers there who just suck at their job and don't give a crap. Why should they? They are getting the same amount of tips as the people who work hard and go out of their way to do the best job they can.
I refuse to give a tip to some lazy biatch who has a perpetual knot in her face, hence the reason I won't go there anymore.
As far as the OP reason for this post, I agree with him in theory, but in real life, it's not practical.
I often find that the severe cheapskates among us always resort to the "the company shoulld pay them better" arguement, but we all know this isnt how real life works. My in-laws are the same stingy fkers, they won't leave a tip if it means saving their life.
I tip well when the server does an extraordinary job, and I tip ZERO when they do a crappy job.
I retired a few years ago, but last year I started driving cab on the week-ends to make some walking around money, and a way to get out of the house.
About 50% of my income comes from tips, but I work hard for them.
When I pick my car up, I wash the outside, clean the glass, and give the inside a thorough vacuuming, wipe down the doors and dash, and unload about an 1/8 of a can of AXE to get rid of the day driver's BO and cigarette smell.
If a woman or couple are getting into the cab, I jump out and open the doors for them. If they have groceries, I'll load all their stuff into the trunk and unload everything.
I'm well groomed, professional, always take the shortest route, and when there are options, I always ask them which way they would prefer to go.
It's a easy job, but I still try to be as professional as I can, and do my best to leave a good impression for the company I drive for. It's in my best interest for you to call my company again.
The average taxi driver is a lazy, usless, smelly sumbitch, who won't get out of his seat unless you hold a gun to his head, and then they wonder why they don't make much in tips.
If I'm driving a lady home, I won't leave the driveway until I see her safely get inside her house. It's little things like this that help shape a standard in the service industry, and like my dad used to say, even if your a floor sweeper, be the best floor sweeper you can be.
If you take pride in yourself and the job you do, then a tip is warrented.
Soon as I found out I told the owner we're not frequenting their place anymore. The servers were under strict orders to keep that detail a secret, but as always, everything eventually gets out.
There's a couple of servers there who just suck at their job and don't give a crap. Why should they? They are getting the same amount of tips as the people who work hard and go out of their way to do the best job they can.
I refuse to give a tip to some lazy biatch who has a perpetual knot in her face, hence the reason I won't go there anymore.
As far as the OP reason for this post, I agree with him in theory, but in real life, it's not practical.
I often find that the severe cheapskates among us always resort to the "the company shoulld pay them better" arguement, but we all know this isnt how real life works. My in-laws are the same stingy fkers, they won't leave a tip if it means saving their life.
I tip well when the server does an extraordinary job, and I tip ZERO when they do a crappy job.
I retired a few years ago, but last year I started driving cab on the week-ends to make some walking around money, and a way to get out of the house.
About 50% of my income comes from tips, but I work hard for them.
When I pick my car up, I wash the outside, clean the glass, and give the inside a thorough vacuuming, wipe down the doors and dash, and unload about an 1/8 of a can of AXE to get rid of the day driver's BO and cigarette smell.
If a woman or couple are getting into the cab, I jump out and open the doors for them. If they have groceries, I'll load all their stuff into the trunk and unload everything.
I'm well groomed, professional, always take the shortest route, and when there are options, I always ask them which way they would prefer to go.
It's a easy job, but I still try to be as professional as I can, and do my best to leave a good impression for the company I drive for. It's in my best interest for you to call my company again.
The average taxi driver is a lazy, usless, smelly sumbitch, who won't get out of his seat unless you hold a gun to his head, and then they wonder why they don't make much in tips.
If I'm driving a lady home, I won't leave the driveway until I see her safely get inside her house. It's little things like this that help shape a standard in the service industry, and like my dad used to say, even if your a floor sweeper, be the best floor sweeper you can be.
If you take pride in yourself and the job you do, then a tip is warrented.
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
I bet you are a pro union person aren't you....
How about doing a job well done and knowing that you are good at it.
How about doing a job well done and knowing that you are good at it.
Unions are the problem. Employees do the minimum to get by. Performance pays incentivizes said employee to go above and beyond what is expected. Habibi gave an excellent example of going the extra mile. Some people may not care, or are to stupid to see that he put a bit of himself in to the experience to make it more pleasurable...but those that do, reward him.
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
The Union jab irked me...
The reason I started this thread is because my buddies girl friend is a waitress and ALWAYS expects a tip. She comes here after work and bitches about her tips which got me thinking about why we should be expected to tip our waitress for doing their job.
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At Monteray's Mexican (sit down) restaurant, my bill typically comes to about $4.50 because I just get a water. The service is good the food is good. I tip 60 to 70%. Typically $3.00.
At Longhorn's in the Vista, I get really great service. When we go, we ask for a specific waitress. She remembers what we had the last time we were there and asks us if we want that again. She knows we are working so she brings the bill to the table with the food. My bill typically comes to about 8 or 9 dollars. I will typically tip her 40 to 50% because it is exceptional service.
Nevertheless, I always tend to overtip.
Do you remember Steve Martin's character in My Blue Heaven? He said that he didn't believe in tipping, he believed in overtipping.
At Longhorn's in the Vista, I get really great service. When we go, we ask for a specific waitress. She remembers what we had the last time we were there and asks us if we want that again. She knows we are working so she brings the bill to the table with the food. My bill typically comes to about 8 or 9 dollars. I will typically tip her 40 to 50% because it is exceptional service.
Nevertheless, I always tend to overtip.
Do you remember Steve Martin's character in My Blue Heaven? He said that he didn't believe in tipping, he believed in overtipping.
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Do you remember Steve Martin's character in My Blue Heaven? He said that he didn't believe in tipping, he believed in overtipping.
IMHO exactly right on! I never fail to tip, if service is bad I don't want the waiter to think I was too cheep to tip, I leave a coin so they know it was intentional! I won't be back or I'll mention my experience to the management.
If the experience is good, I want them to remember me and my tip will guarentee that. As someone said, waiters and waitresses remember and talk about thier day. Do you want them to remember you as the cheepskate who stiffed them or be glad to see you. I try to remember their names and make sure I treat them with respect, they are trying to take care of me, they are my employees.
If I can't afford to leave a generous tip, I can't afford to go out to dinner.
As miss manners said "take care of the pepole who take care of you."
IMHO exactly right on! I never fail to tip, if service is bad I don't want the waiter to think I was too cheep to tip, I leave a coin so they know it was intentional! I won't be back or I'll mention my experience to the management.
If the experience is good, I want them to remember me and my tip will guarentee that. As someone said, waiters and waitresses remember and talk about thier day. Do you want them to remember you as the cheepskate who stiffed them or be glad to see you. I try to remember their names and make sure I treat them with respect, they are trying to take care of me, they are my employees.
If I can't afford to leave a generous tip, I can't afford to go out to dinner.
As miss manners said "take care of the pepole who take care of you."
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
The reason I started this thread is because my buddies girl friend is a waitress and ALWAYS expects a tip. .
Having this type of attitude ensures you don't lose your mind.
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Having worken in the foodservice industry for 17 years (prior to my current, non-foodservice job) I can agree with some of the previous posters that there is alot more involved in waiting tables than taking orders and bringing food to the table. It takes tact, anticipation, grace, and social skills. Anticipation is what most guests will notice first, and generally, reward the server accordingly. The best servers will get the guest what they need before the guest has to ask. There are alot of bad servers out there, I have had them serve me, and I have worked with them.
In years past, the term TIP was meant "To Insure Promptness," and was given to the server before the meal began. I am not sure where it became customary to leave a tip at the end of service, but, I digress.
Restaurant owners walk a fine line of balancing their food/payroll cost against revenue in order to be profitable. The margin is very small for restaurants, and if restaurant operators were forced to pay their servers minimum wage, then their margin would go in the red real fast. Many places that I have worked, mostly fine dining, my employer would pay me all my tips for the week on a paycheck, taxing the entire amount. We were "supposed" to claim our cash tips at the end of each shift, but when 95% of payments were via credit card, the small amount of cash tips, claimed or not, were of little consequence.
Anyway, I am one who will overtip for exceptional service, but if I get sorry service, I will tip 10% and notify the manager of the problem.
In years past, the term TIP was meant "To Insure Promptness," and was given to the server before the meal began. I am not sure where it became customary to leave a tip at the end of service, but, I digress.
Restaurant owners walk a fine line of balancing their food/payroll cost against revenue in order to be profitable. The margin is very small for restaurants, and if restaurant operators were forced to pay their servers minimum wage, then their margin would go in the red real fast. Many places that I have worked, mostly fine dining, my employer would pay me all my tips for the week on a paycheck, taxing the entire amount. We were "supposed" to claim our cash tips at the end of each shift, but when 95% of payments were via credit card, the small amount of cash tips, claimed or not, were of little consequence.
Anyway, I am one who will overtip for exceptional service, but if I get sorry service, I will tip 10% and notify the manager of the problem.
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There was an article in the paper last year about a lady who retired after 20-30 years as a waitress from the most Upscale steak house in Baton Rouge. The paper said she averaged $60k a year in tips.
Im 19, work hard for my money and guess what? When I take my Girlfriend out to eat or w/e, if the service is good, I tip good. We were eating one night, I forget where but...Our waitress was awesome (and hott ) Our drinks never got below half full and she was in the area every few minutes asking how everything was. Not only that, she had a great personality. Anyways, she was being just as great to the people at the next table...they left her $2. She followed them into the parking lot with her $2, gave it back to them and said "Here, apparently you need this more than I do..." BURN.
Long story short...they make half of minimum wage, in most cases, so if the service is good you should tip.
Im 19, work hard for my money and guess what? When I take my Girlfriend out to eat or w/e, if the service is good, I tip good. We were eating one night, I forget where but...Our waitress was awesome (and hott
) Our drinks never got below half full and she was in the area every few minutes asking how everything was. Not only that, she had a great personality. Anyways, she was being just as great to the people at the next table...they left her $2. She followed them into the parking lot with her $2, gave it back to them and said "Here, apparently you need this more than I do..." BURN.Long story short...they make half of minimum wage, in most cases, so if the service is good you should tip.
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I like the tipping aspect in the food service business. If it was rolled into the price of the food, then you would be paying the same price no matter what the quality of service you are receiving.
Bad service can spoil good food.
another reason I like tips.. I am a very good tipper if the service meets my level of expectation, and a very pleasant person to wait on. I eat out a lot, and usually at upper end places. At the places I frequent, I am always treated better then the average customer, because of the way I tip, and the fact I am not a pain in the butt, although I do have very high expectations.
If the price of the service was rolled into the food price, then I would get treated the same way as the butthead that is sitting at the next table and constantly complaining about every little thing, no matter how stupid his complaint is.
By tipping, you are controlling the cost of your dining experience. If the service sucks, you don't have to pay for it .. I have never understood why people complain about tipping their waiters. Why complain when it allows you to control the cost .. you pay what you think it is worth. why is that bad?
Bad service can spoil good food.
another reason I like tips.. I am a very good tipper if the service meets my level of expectation, and a very pleasant person to wait on. I eat out a lot, and usually at upper end places. At the places I frequent, I am always treated better then the average customer, because of the way I tip, and the fact I am not a pain in the butt, although I do have very high expectations.
If the price of the service was rolled into the food price, then I would get treated the same way as the butthead that is sitting at the next table and constantly complaining about every little thing, no matter how stupid his complaint is.
By tipping, you are controlling the cost of your dining experience. If the service sucks, you don't have to pay for it .. I have never understood why people complain about tipping their waiters. Why complain when it allows you to control the cost .. you pay what you think it is worth. why is that bad?
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Originally Posted by chumFX4
In years past, the term TIP was meant "To Insure Promptness," and was given to the server before the meal began.
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my buddies girl friend is a waitress and ALWAYS expects a tip.
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The title of this thread reminds me of a scene from a movie. You know which one I'm talking about:
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Nice Guy Eddie: C'mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don't tip.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't tip?
Mr. Pink: Nah, I don't believe in it.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't believe in tipping?
Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make chit.
Mr. Pink: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit.
Nice Guy Eddie: I don't even know a farking Jew who'd have the ***** to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip?
Mr. Pink: I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
Mr. Blue: Hey, our girl was nice.
Mr. Pink: She was okay. She wasn't anything special.
Mr. Blue: What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dang-dang?
Nice Guy Eddie: I'd go over twelve percent for that.
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Nice Guy Eddie: C'mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don't tip.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't tip?
Mr. Pink: Nah, I don't believe in it.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't believe in tipping?
Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make chit.
Mr. Pink: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit.
Nice Guy Eddie: I don't even know a farking Jew who'd have the ***** to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip?
Mr. Pink: I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
Mr. Blue: Hey, our girl was nice.
Mr. Pink: She was okay. She wasn't anything special.
Mr. Blue: What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dang-dang?
Nice Guy Eddie: I'd go over twelve percent for that.
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i dont mind tipping, but the rule that really irks me, is the percentage part of it. I mean a steak dinner at one place might be 20 bucks, and if the waitstaff does their job, i usually leave 20 percent, which is what?, about 4 bucks. if they were really great and went out of the way, i would prolly leave 6.
...but lets say you go to an expensive place and the steak dinner is 40 bucks for basically the same thing, why should I tip someone the same 20 percent (which is now the same 6 bucks that i gave the guy who busted his *** at the cheaper restaurant) for doing their job. ANd if he does really good, I should tip him 10 bucks? Thats where the problem is. And these people are expecting it, whether their service was good or not. ANd then you got to worry about them doing something to your damn food.
...but lets say you go to an expensive place and the steak dinner is 40 bucks for basically the same thing, why should I tip someone the same 20 percent (which is now the same 6 bucks that i gave the guy who busted his *** at the cheaper restaurant) for doing their job. ANd if he does really good, I should tip him 10 bucks? Thats where the problem is. And these people are expecting it, whether their service was good or not. ANd then you got to worry about them doing something to your damn food.
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Gotts2BMe have you ever worked in the food industry, because its hard to argue a point when you dont know the other side. when you go to a resturant you pay for your food and for your service. you dont tip at mcdonalds cause there is no service. if you went out to a resturant would you want to have to get up and get your food and drinks, no, you pay someone to do this for you. the reason why a resturant wouldnt want to make the tip part of the meal price is because they want their wait staff to strive to do their best to keep bringing customers back. ya you can say people should take pride in their work but this isnt true in real life. if you went out to a nice resturant with a big party and got crappy service but a 20% tip was included wouldnt you kind of feel shafted.
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I've got a piggy back question for y'all as well...
I don't know about every body but many have problems with say technical stuff. Like your new cell phone that you are having prolems with accessing some unique feature and go back to the place you bought it and asked them how to work it properly. They take your phone do through a step by step how to to help you out and are polite and respectful an djust over all exceptional service. Why don't people tip them as well?
I don't know about every body but many have problems with say technical stuff. Like your new cell phone that you are having prolems with accessing some unique feature and go back to the place you bought it and asked them how to work it properly. They take your phone do through a step by step how to to help you out and are polite and respectful an djust over all exceptional service. Why don't people tip them as well?