Exactly!

Time is the only true test and I don't know of anyone here who actually uses thier truck that has opted to take the gambel and test one yet.

Its never a good idea to buy new model produciton years anyway. Ussually best to wait mid cycle 2-3-5 years and let them get all the bugs found and worked out of the new designs.

This one is even worse then new model, this is first run production of new vehicle.... It's going to have a few problems, I don't care who made it.

 

You guys ever see how much a big rig flexes?

Rigid + heavy load + sharp jolt = snaps in half.

Flexible + heavy load + sharp jolt = bends and returns to form.

Everything is a compromise. If the Toyota bends a little, SO WHAT?

A little flex might not help with its crash worthiness or road holding around a skid pad, but it does not mean the truck can't haul, is not tough, or can't offroad.

BTW, it's still UGLY.

 

The cab on a rig is mounted so it absorbs impacts instead of transferring it to the driver, plus the fenders/hood is very light material.

 

Any thing we have ever owned has been through its paces But after looking under a Tundra I have serious doubts about its ability to take abuse for long.

 

New Tundra Frame against 3 year old 150 frame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_...elated&search=

 

I dont know, the one I looked at some reason I couldn't quite put my finger on it, reminded me of a cross between an older dodge and an older (AMC) Jeep and an international. I seen inspiration from them all as well as ford and dodge styling, with some new innovation twisted in.

All 3 were tough as nails, especialy the old International Scouts, you cant kill the SOB's. There were some weak links I noticed, I'm waiting to see what happens with them. I didnt expect the engine troubles that they have.
I did predict the brake troubles in the thread on here.
I havent seen the inside of thier transmissions, but I'll make another prediction, something tells me, kind of a feeling in muy gut, that there are going to be issues with them surface over the next couple of years. We'll wait and see.

ETA
I also predicted the rear end troubles and also included axle troubles... the axles have yet to fail that we know of....but I'll stand behind that, time will tell.

 

I don't doubt that the tundra can pull 10k...but I have faith that my F150 will pull time and time again, load after load, and stand up to the abuse that I'll put it through...I drove a Tundra. It felt "plasticy" and cheap.

 

Those trannys that are permantly sealed? I think I read somewhere that you cant service them ( I could be wrong ) That alone would scare me.

Far as underneath, compared to the Big 3 there just doesnt seem to be much there. But when they start to sag and twist like overloaded S10s in a few years I guess we'll know then.

 

Yea that was in my test drive thread were I talked about the sealed tranny's.
That concerns me but thats not what has me suspecting future issues. That will casue you to have to be towed to a dealer and cost lots of $$$$ if you smack the trans pan on a rock or log or something.... Dont laugh, it's happened to me in other rigs, I had to duct tape it up and continually stop to add fluid to get 5 miles back to home. Cant add fluid to a tundra.......


Hey now cant knock the S10's... I've got a scale ticket here from my old 90 that reads 16,??? lbs with no trailer brakes......
Yea that was a puckered ride. I'm still pulling the seat out of my crack 8 years later.
Hoover my foot over the brake pedal and theyd lock up... stopping???? Whats that?

 

Oh Ive hit my share of logs and rocks over, got the old Explorer hung up on a tree stump once, luckily it hit the skidplate.

My neighbor has an old rusted out (given) S10, that thing has been loaded up so much over the years I can guarantee if there was something left of the panels they wouldnt line up with anything else

 

I can honestly say I have never punished a vehicle as much as I did that S10... It was everything from a duece tow truck, to a 14' flat bed wood truck.

I would stick 8' boards in the sides and stack split wood between them about 3' over the cab. It was funny as all get out. One time I literally dug a ditch down the middle of the road from my neighbors place where we were clearing some trees, to my place, using the bolt on the bottom of the ball hitch on the bumper becasue it was dragging the ground. The county commisioner some how found out it was me and man he was not happy!

 

Sealed trannies are showing up in a lot of newer cars....especially foriegn.
Makes it so you basically have to go to the dealer to get it flushed and changed properly.

 

I bet you don't even need to prop up the front end of that trailer when unhooking from the truck. Prolly has 200lbs of tongue-weight...MAX.

 

Have you ever looked at a new Tundra just sitting parked, no load? The things look bent from the git go.

Toyota's press releases prior to production said that the look they were going for was that of a "clenched fist"..

sort of like this rubberized ***** I reckon..

 

WOW, a skin tone Tundra..I bet those are doing well in San Francisco