Tonight I was out at a bonfire witha a bunch of people drinking beer and whatnot, when this kid came up and tackled my friend and started choking him. We let it play out for a few minutes (everybody actually thought they were just wresting). Then the kid got my friend on his back and punched him square in the eye. Keep in mind, we all thought they were just messing around until that point, so it took everybody by surprise when he actually punched him. Either way, a couple people tried to pull the kid off, but he kept swinging. This kid has been my best friend for almost 12 years, and he was blacking out, so I went and grabbed the kid around the neck and threw him backwards. Just so happens the fire was right where I threw him. He landed right on his back in the middle of a pile of burning coals and hot nails. Some kids rushed me, but for some reason nobody swung. We had a lot of trouble getting out of there, as we were definitely in the minority.

So now I've heard that they know it was me, they don't know it was me, they think it was somebody else, etc... What I want to know is what you guys would do in my situation. If they find out it was me, I know they will show up with 15+ at my doorstep.

Apparantly the kid's back was pretty messed up. I really didn't mean to do that, but he wasn't fighting fair and I wanted him off my friend. Trust me, I don't go looking for trouble and I don't like fighting. Do you guys think I was right in what I did? And what should I do about the unavoidable battles that are going to come? I don't really want to get the cops involved, but if they come to my house it will take every ounce of strength I have to keep myself from unloading a few rounds of buckshot (this is Florida, I'm allowed to do that lol).

Turns out the kid (who was very drunk and had already been in multiple fights) was talking to my friend's gf, and happened to look around and see my friend staring at him. I guess at that point he just charged. There may be more to it than that, but that's the story I was told.

 

man that sucks.....I hope you don't end up getting Josiah'd.
Just keep watching your back, don't let your guard down.

 

Man up, admit you did it, slug it out with the dude or maybe you guys can talk it out and squash it like that. Either way own up to it ASAP so you can get on with your life.
Leave the shotgun in the gun cabinet.
You did the right thing helping your buddy out. From "your side of the story" the other guy was looking for trouble and found it!

 

Well I'm only 20 , so I don't have a CWP (yet), but my 12 guage is legally allowed to ride in the back seat, loaded with one in the chamber. Trust me, it's not that I'm just gonna open fire when I see them, but I know these kids don't fight fair. If I feel threatened (especially if I'm in my house) then they're done. I'll call the cops, tell them there's some kids outside my house threatening me, and if they don't get there fast enough I'll take matters into my own hands. Idk, I guess I'm just young and immature.

It sucks because up until tonight I was friends with all of them. We all take turns pulling eachother out of the mud on our work days and all that, but as soon as something as simple as a fight happens, they instantly become your worst enemy. Maybe I just need to stop being friends with everybody and just pick a side. Would make things a whole lot easier when a brawl breaks out.

Guess I'm not going to any bonfires for a while.

 

I agree, and with normal people I would admit it. But I ****ed that kid up bad. You know he's gonna have scars for the rest of his life. If I fight him, it won't be 1 on 1 for longer than 3 seconds. And they've got way more friends than me. It's not like I just pissed them off, I threw a kid into a bonfire. They are not happy. Last word was they are cruising all the local neighborhoods looking for my truck. Usually when we get into fights, nobody remembers it and a week later we're all cool again. This just seems a lot worse than normal. I'm probably just overreacting, but whatever.

 

Just buy the kid one of these for his next flamethrowing incident.

 

LMAO! Oh man would he be pissed if I found out where he lived and put one of those on his doorstep.

I really do feel bad though. He's drunk now, but he's gonna be hurtin' in the morning.

 

Dont man up and fight him. Thats just retarded, cause A. You already messed up his back, and B. Thats another reason for him to sue and get you arrested. If they show up to your house, call the cops and say there is a group of guys at your house with bats or somthing then the cops shoot up with their lights blazing and those kids get busted for trespassing. Then what you do is get a restraining order on the kid or kids. If you really feel like they are going to whack you good, grab your shot gun and walk out side and demand they step off your property. If not, BAM!

Oh and btw, you were deffintly 100% in the right for what you did.

 

It's called drama...and it's just going to get worse unless you get some face time with this dude. Don't hide in your house waiting with a shotgun, go find them and explain what went down, deal with it from there.....thats called getting respect.....now go get some respect

"I want you to eat lighting and crap thunder"

 

I completely see both points of view. Like I said, I don't like to fight. But if somebody has a problem with me, then I'll do what I have to do. The difference in this case is that everybody wants a piece of me. I threw their friend in the fire. I'm just thinking of what I would (at least want to) do to the person who threw my friend in the fire. The difference is that I am at least somewhat capable of rational thought. They'll all just want to **** me up. And god help them if they touch my truck lol.

My original plan was exactly what nuclearthreat said. There's still a really good chance they don't know (for sure) who it was, so I'll probably just wait a few days and see how it plays out..

 

How drunk were you to throw another human being into a buring fire?

I've been in that situation. My friends and I use to have parties and bon fires every other weekend at a friends place. Sometimes, there would be fights. But people owned up to what was happining and what had happened in the past and fought it out. (If they felt necessary)

Just whoop the kid and get on with it.. Bring some of your friends to make sure it's only you and burnt back that fight. Squash that crap.. there's more to life than fighting.. (Especially since it's not over a girl)

 

I'd wait till morning then go find the guy myslef. He's more likely be alone and sober. Funny how those two things take the fight out of young boys. Especially the being alone, they don't have to be tough if thier friends aren't around to impmress. Then.... if he still wants to fight, kick the shista out of him. No mercy!!!! Hit kick, pound his head on the ground, stomp on his head kick him in the side have your way with him until he is unable to move or you you just dont have enough energy left to stand. Assume he is faking so you will stop and he can try to get you again.

You mentioned fair fight.... NO SUCH THING!!!!!

There are no rule books and no referees

You have 2 rules
Rule #1 - Keep your butt from being put in the hospital.
Rule #2 - Make sure he never wants to cross you again

Bonus points given for putting him in the hospital.

win or lose it don't matter both people hurt afterwards, make sure he hurts more!

 

OK first off...don't post on the internet that you are going to "take matters into your own hands" with your 12-gauge if the cops don't get there fast enough.

A gun is for one thing, and one thing only, when it comes to self defense. To stop an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury to one's self or other innocents.

That is, the gun is not to kill, it is not to injur, it is not to hurt, harm, or frighten, it is to STOP THE THREAT. If your attacker, or attackers, fall to the ground and live the next 60 years of their life happily, then that's fine. If your attackers fall to the ground and die instantly, then so be it, but that should NEVER be your intention. All you want to do is stop the threat.

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Furthermore, I carry a gun on a daily basis. Whether guns were legal, illegal, or otherwise, I'd still carry the gun. I know that without a doubt, if the situation arises where I need to use my gun to stop a threat, then I have two choices:

1) die
2) use my firearm

Now if using the firearm means going to jail for life, I feel as though I'd be much better off in jail, for life, than dead.

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That's just my take on the matter. Personally, I think you need to find a new group of friends. Secondly, if someone threatens you, call the police. These aren't the days anymore of meeting someone at the park after school and punching it out with them. When I was younger, that was the way to do things, but not so much anymore. So yeah, grow up, act like an adult, quit fighting...or accept the consequences and take your beat down like a man.

 

Whatever happened to the days when you didn't sucker punch a guy? And his bussies stayed out - so did yours? You young guys have no idea what real respect is about. Used to be you fought, slapped hands, and were buddies. Gangs (doesn't matter what you call these "friends", that is gang activity) are wimps that hide in the shadows behind weapons and other members. There may be strength in numbers, but no respect. If these guys come in force, let the police take them down - you say yourself there's too many for you to deal with.

Best to lay low and let the wind blow it by. Getting guns involved will only escalate the problem and someone will probably end up dead. And if you pick up your shotgun, you better plan to kill them all - don't sound like the type that will lose a few and stop, sound like the type that will do drive bys until they get you.

Good luck, sounds like you will need it.

PS: Getting drunk and fighting is really dumb. Even more so when you mix in vehicles. Get some friends that know life is about more than being drunk and stupid - that ain't living, that's hardly existing.

 

You screwed up by posting how old you are here in this thread. You admitted on a public forum that you were underage drinking and more than likely every one there was underage or close to it.

A bunch of kids and alcohol do not mix well together. EVeryone there made the mistake of not pulling this kid off of the fire immediately, whether he started this situation or not.