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From: Broward County, FL
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Whoa, wait just a minute....
You would never throw someone on a bonfire on purpose, you regret doing that, yet you were/are planing on shooting them?
Dude throwing someone on a bonfire is like shaking thier hand compared shooting someone.
At this point, since you posted it then if you have to shoot them it would be called premediated murder. Not self defense. Your going in with intentions to shoot them and not taking every route to avoid it.
Put the guns away, take it out of your truck, lock it safely away.
I carry too, I hope to god I never have to use it. Not becasue I'm worried about using it. Because if I do, that means I feel I am going to die anyway and I hope my life is never in that danger. If it is I will take them with me or if I'm lucky just send them to the other side. They will never see it, if anyone happens to see my gun in my hand, that means they are dead before they have to time to react. Ideally try to keep it hid, they won't even see it.
Rules to stay alive
1. Never pull a weapon that you dont want used on yourself. this includes Bats, pipes, sand hose, pool ball in a tube sock, knife, gun, etc etc.
2. Never pull a weapon that you are not using as you pull it. Never ever threaten to use something. If you pull a knife stick it in thier throat as you pull it out. If you have a bat or pipe try to keep it hid until you reach them, also sprint for them, dont walk, then swing as you pull it.
If you show a weapon, be scared enough to use it.
You would never throw someone on a bonfire on purpose, you regret doing that, yet you were/are planing on shooting them?
Dude throwing someone on a bonfire is like shaking thier hand compared shooting someone.
At this point, since you posted it then if you have to shoot them it would be called premediated murder. Not self defense. Your going in with intentions to shoot them and not taking every route to avoid it.
Put the guns away, take it out of your truck, lock it safely away.
I carry too, I hope to god I never have to use it. Not becasue I'm worried about using it. Because if I do, that means I feel I am going to die anyway and I hope my life is never in that danger. If it is I will take them with me or if I'm lucky just send them to the other side. They will never see it, if anyone happens to see my gun in my hand, that means they are dead before they have to time to react. Ideally try to keep it hid, they won't even see it.
Rules to stay alive
1. Never pull a weapon that you dont want used on yourself. this includes Bats, pipes, sand hose, pool ball in a tube sock, knife, gun, etc etc.
2. Never pull a weapon that you are not using as you pull it. Never ever threaten to use something. If you pull a knife stick it in thier throat as you pull it out. If you have a bat or pipe try to keep it hid until you reach them, also sprint for them, dont walk, then swing as you pull it.
If you show a weapon, be scared enough to use it.
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Originally Posted by nuclearthreat54
Thats good advice, better than mine.
Anyway, I now have a rather large knife that is mounted to my sun visor. That is always there. I recently started putting the shotgun in the back. Trust me when I say that I have been in more than a few situations that could have easily been taken care of with the gun, but I have never pulled it on anybody. It is there simply because I would not exactly be surprised to find myself in the middle of a shootout or some kind of gang war. I know, I need a new job. I do make good money though, so it's tough.
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Originally Posted by jiggle
I will say that my shotgun is almost always loaded and stuck behind my driver's seat.
A .22 in the pocket is better than a .45 left at home, or in your case, better than a shotgun left in the truck.
fairly interesting thread.....please continue.
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Originally Posted by deapee
What about when you get out of the truck? You know what they say...
A .22 in the pocket is better than a .45 left at home, or in your case, better than a shotgun left in the truck.
A .22 in the pocket is better than a .45 left at home, or in your case, better than a shotgun left in the truck.
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Originally Posted by jiggle
I can't legally carry for another 9 months. Aside from carrying a pocket knife on my person, leaving the weapons in the car is the best I can do.
Basically, Even if you're 100% right to use your weapon I'd have an extra 50K laying around to defend your actions in court, as well as the Civil Suit you'll probably face from the Loser's parents or wife.
To be frank, listening to your stories of under age drinking/partying, fighting, and driving around with shotguns in your truck. I'd probably steer clear of a CC permit for at Least another 5 years.... It requires a LOT of responsibility...
Scenario, You see some guy backing out of a 7/11 Shooting into the front door of the place. Do you pop a cap in him?
1. You're not authorized to Do so. 2. How do you know he's not an undercover cop fleeing through the door shooting at the Bad Guy still in the Building??
If you go through with your permit I hope you pay Very Close attention to the training and encourage you to get even more.
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Originally Posted by BHibbs
I hope you don't have any mis-conceptions about this CC thing. Basically you are Not Allowed to fire your weapon unless you can PROVE you were facing Extreme bodily harm (a big guy coming at you to pummel you's Not going to do it).
Basically, Even if you're 100% right to use your weapon I'd have an extra 50K laying around to defend your actions in court, as well as the Civil Suit you'll probably face from the Loser's parents or wife.
To be frank, listening to your stories of under age drinking/partying, fighting, and driving around with shotguns in your truck. I'd probably steer clear of a CC permit for at Least another 5 years.... It requires a LOT of responsibility...
Scenario, You see some guy backing out of a 7/11 Shooting into the front door of the place. Do you pop a cap in him?
1. You're not authorized to Do so. 2. How do you know he's not an undercover cop fleeing through the door shooting at the Bad Guy still in the Building??
If you go through with your permit I hope you pay Very Close attention to the training and encourage you to get even more.
Basically, Even if you're 100% right to use your weapon I'd have an extra 50K laying around to defend your actions in court, as well as the Civil Suit you'll probably face from the Loser's parents or wife.
To be frank, listening to your stories of under age drinking/partying, fighting, and driving around with shotguns in your truck. I'd probably steer clear of a CC permit for at Least another 5 years.... It requires a LOT of responsibility...
Scenario, You see some guy backing out of a 7/11 Shooting into the front door of the place. Do you pop a cap in him?
1. You're not authorized to Do so. 2. How do you know he's not an undercover cop fleeing through the door shooting at the Bad Guy still in the Building??
If you go through with your permit I hope you pay Very Close attention to the training and encourage you to get even more.
You also need to Prove that you Tried to Escape the situation and even showed Retreat WHILE your were fireing your weapon.
Originally Posted by Washington Post, 2005
"The Florida measure says any person "has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm."
The new law would allow them to use deadly force even if they could have fled and says that prosecutors must automatically presume that would-be victims feared for their lives if attacked."
The new law would allow them to use deadly force even if they could have fled and says that prosecutors must automatically presume that would-be victims feared for their lives if attacked."