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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Sh!t. Party or watch tv.....party or watch tv........looks like Ill be missing it again
tivo!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Heres the link to the show. http://www.history.com/minisite.do?c...&mini_id=54692

Heres your road. Don't get lost.

 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
tivo!

More like....

VIDEO CASSETTE RECORDER!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartak1
More like....

VIDEO CASSETTE RECORDER!

LMAO

I dont have TiVo either, cant see paying anything each month to record.......

I use a DVD Recorder.....

Panasonic DMR-ES15s
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Yea, PSS_MAG sold me on the DVD-R world. I'm very happy with my conversion.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Hey for 170ish bucks that doesnt seem to bad...

Maybe someday down the road though. I dont watch enough TV really to make it worth it to have a nice big TV and fancy accessories for it I have a PS2 that plays games (the whole 3 games I have), CD's, and DVDs. Pretty good in my book. Plus with a VCR...dang, I got it going

Maybe someday when Im old and think I need a nice big LazyBoy to stick infront of it
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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So is there much of a loss in quality between what your recording and the recorded DVD? Or can you not tell a difference?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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So is there much of a loss in quality between what your recording and the recorded DVD? Or can you not tell a difference?
The best signal I have is regular digitial satelite, It looks the same as the broadcast.
I do not have HD TV yet, then I'd need to upgrade to an HD DVD or blueray player as well. I'm not a rich man and have alot of expensive hobbies. I'd love to be on top of the tech scene. But I watch maybe an hour of TV a week. Maybe one or two movies a month. That does increase more in the winter time, thats whe nI catch up on teh movies. Which is when I do tend to buy more A/V stuff. So maybe next fall HD will be cheap enough and I'll get a wild hair to upgrade.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Hell we drive out on the lakes around here in the winter in Minnesota. I have taken my truck out on 12" before. Once middle of January the upper 1/2 of the state has diesels running around on the lakes with 20'+ fish houses hooked up. Just got to use your brain.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TomKemp
Hell we drive out on the lakes around here in the winter in Minnesota. I have taken my truck out on 12" before. Once middle of January the upper 1/2 of the state has diesels running around on the lakes with 20'+ fish houses hooked up. Just got to use your brain.
I've lived here 5 years and that's one thing I could never bring myself to do. No, it's not "use your brain" , but "driver out on the ice". I would just hate to see it go through.

I saw a Ford Ranger fall through the ice when we had a bit of a warm up last year.

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by UrbanCowboy
Yea, PSS_MAG sold me on the DVD-R world. I'm very happy with my conversion.
DVD-Rs are just fancy VCRs.

DVRs should be standard now.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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With a $40 Billion dollar industry. (THis is even worse, if that's per year)

Would it bee too much, to ask for a REAL road?

Sure, it'd be an engineering feat, but- if they can build the lake Ponchartrain causeway over 30 miles of nothing but water (Lake Ponchartrain), or that super long bridge over the marshlands of southern Louisiana, (far longer than the causeway, but doesn't hold the record because it's over land and water) then they have GOT to be able to build a road over that barren wilderness in Northern Canada.

If not a road, at least a freaking railroad

Or, will concrete and steel not survive the bitterly cold Canadian winter?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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With a $40 Billion dollar industry. (THis is even worse, if that's per year)

Would it bee too much, to ask for a REAL road?

Sure, it'd be an engineering feat, but- if they can build the lake Ponchartrain causeway over 30 miles of nothing but water (Lake Ponchartrain), or that super long bridge over the marshlands of southern Louisiana, (far longer than the causeway, but doesn't hold the record because it's over land and water) then they have GOT to be able to build a road over that barren wilderness in Northern Canada.

If not a road, at least a freaking railroad

Or, will concrete and steel not survive the bitterly cold Canadian winter?
Thats what I was thinking too.
They spend what was it 10 mil a year to build this temorpary road... wouldn't take but just a few years to pay for an actual road, not to mention being able to deliver the goods all year long and safety. Do it as a toll road to help pay for it.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Thats what I was thinking too.
They spend what was it 10 mil a year to build this temorpary road... wouldn't take but just a few years to pay for an actual road, not to mention being able to deliver the goods all year long and safety. Do it as a toll road to help pay for it.
I am a civil engineer so I will chime in here. I am not sure how many of the 200 miles are bridges but let's say that 150 miles are bridge and 50 miles are on solid ground.

They state on the site that it is a $1.8 billion a year industry.

Price per square foot of a bridge would be around $300/sf. I factored in the extreme hardship of building it in the middle of nowhere and the extremely overweight loads. With all 2 lane bridges and some shoulders in case a truck breaks down the width of the bridge would be around 44' wide minimum (10' shoulders on each side).

150 miles = 792,000 ft.
44x792000 = 34,848,000 sf.

Total cost for bridges = $10,454,400,000 (that's $10.4 billion).

Roadway would cost about $30 million / mi (at least). 50 miles = $1,500,000,000 ($1.5 billion).

Permitting through the lakes and environmentally sensitive areas (wetlands) would probably cost millions (if at all possible). Then there would be right-of-way costs. I have a feeling they do not own all of that land but get agreements with someone to use the frozen land. Maintenance per year would be outrageous due to the freezing and thawing. They would be rebuilding roadway sections every year. Let's say maintenance would be $50 million/year.

Total to build = $15-$20 billion (that's my approximation)

If it is a $1.8 billion/yr industry then it would take $10 years of profits to build a permanent road. Right now they are spending $10 million/yr to build a temporary road.

It all comes down to economics and profits. The diamond industry does not care if these truckers lose their lives to get the supplies to them. they will find a new trucker to fill in. These guys can make over $70k in 3 months.
 

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Roadway would cost about $30 million / mi (at least). 50 miles = $1,500,000,000 ($1.5 billion).
Also take into consideration that most of the ground is probably muskeg, so there is no solid foundation for a road to be built on either.
 
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