UCLA vs USC game . . . .
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Originally Posted by dzervit
God the BCS blows chunks. Well congrats on becoming the National Champs OSU! I don't understand why they just don't forgo the lame game and give OSU the title...
Until a playoff is put into play, these arguments will be made every year. I hate the way the college presidents use the excuse of "the student athletes this" or "the student athletes that", when all it really comes down to is money. Hell, in March, the basketball tournament teams are barely on campus at all, especially the teams that go far into the tournament. But I digress.
Top 8 get into a playoff. They'd get to create new bowls (read: revenue), and market the big playoff system. Sure there would be arguments over the #8 and #9 teams each year, but at least it's not like arguing we have now.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Michigan came pretty close, on the road nonetheless.
Dude, why dont you recognize the not-winning-conference thing I keep mentioning. Winning the conference means jack if the conference is full of horrible teams (i.e. the WAC NMSU got its second DivI win this season last night...we had a 22 game losing streak before last week)
Dude, why dont you recognize the not-winning-conference thing I keep mentioning. Winning the conference means jack if the conference is full of horrible teams (i.e. the WAC NMSU got its second DivI win this season last night...we had a 22 game losing streak before last week)
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Originally Posted by BigTRQ
I agree that the BCS sucks big time. However, this year, I think it worked okay. Tell me, why should Michigan get to replay OSU again? They didn't win the first time, so why a chance for a rematch, in a National Title game? UF won 12 games, competing in the toughest conference, and winning it; Michigan, won 11 games, and couldn't win their conference. Case closed.
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In the current system, someone is always going to feel like they deserved a shot and were left out. Sucks to be that team, but Michigan had a shot at controlling their own destiny and they blew it. It could just as easily be Michigan vs. Florida or insert team here _________.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Agreed 100%
But seriously, how the crap do you pronounce that author's last name!?
But seriously, how the crap do you pronounce that author's last name!?
I think it is pronounced SMITH... or JONES...
The consonant to vowel ratio is outstanding.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Agreed 100%
But seriously, how the crap do you pronounce that author's last name!?
But seriously, how the crap do you pronounce that author's last name!?
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Just look at NCAA basketball. How many times does the #1 seeded team win the Final Four. Probably pretty rare. Winning championships is about peaking at the right time.
Give another team a chance to prove that either Ohio State and Michigan are definitely the two best teams in the country or maybe they are not as good as the best SEC team.
If Florida wins, then we will know that Michigan had no business playing a rematch game. If Ohio State wins, then we will know that Ohio State and Michigan are probably 1a and 1b. In a perfect world we would have at least the top 4 teams all playing for the National Championship in a playoff.
Give another team a chance to prove that either Ohio State and Michigan are definitely the two best teams in the country or maybe they are not as good as the best SEC team.
If Florida wins, then we will know that Michigan had no business playing a rematch game. If Ohio State wins, then we will know that Ohio State and Michigan are probably 1a and 1b. In a perfect world we would have at least the top 4 teams all playing for the National Championship in a playoff.
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Originally Posted by lrhogfan
In the current system, someone is always going to feel like they deserved a shot and were left out. Sucks to be that team, but Michigan had a shot at controlling their own destiny and they blew it. It could just as easily be Michigan vs. Florida or insert team here _________.
Jim Tressell is also a major league poosey for not voting.
Playoffs are the only way to go, 'cuz TRQ is right - all this BS is all opinion and thus we can argue forever. One thing that's NOT an opinion - the current system sucks. We go through this same crap each and every year.
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Originally Posted by dzervit
If Michigan would have beaten OSU by 3 it should STILL be a rematch.
Jim Tressell is also a major league poosey for not voting.
Playoffs are the only way to go, 'cuz TRQ is right - all this BS is all opinion and thus we can argue forever. One thing that's NOT an opinion - the current system sucks. We go through this same crap each and every year.
Jim Tressell is also a major league poosey for not voting.
Playoffs are the only way to go, 'cuz TRQ is right - all this BS is all opinion and thus we can argue forever. One thing that's NOT an opinion - the current system sucks. We go through this same crap each and every year.
8 teams, 7 bowl games, 1 "won on the field" champion. Here's to hoping we get that one day.
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Originally Posted by BigTRQ
Why didn't Tressel vote? Did he think that his vote would get out somehow??
It's my other beef with the BCS... freakin' polls.
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December 4, 2006
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Ohio State coach Jim Tressel refused to vote in the USA Today coaches poll that determined his opponent for the BCS title game.
Coaches' votes remain secret throughout the season until this week's poll. USA Today intended to publish the votes -- from No. 1 to No. 25 -- of all 63 coaches in today's editions and at www.usatoday.com.
Tressel cited a conflict of interest for not voting.
"I have so much respect for both Michigan and Florida," Tressel said. "Obviously, there are only two teams that had a shot at playing us in the national championship game. I didn't think it was appropriate that Ohio State would cast a ballot one way or the other."
Tressel's move didn't please Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.
Asked about Tressel's decision, Carr said he would never abstain from voting and, "I thought it was real slick."
USA Today's managing editor for sports, Monte Lorell, said in a statement: "We are disappointed with Coach Tressel's decision, but our oversight role does not grant us authority to compel his participation.
"Coach Tressel's future involvement in the poll will be part of our annual review with (American Football Coaches Association) executive director Grant Teaff."
One former Buckeyes coach voted. Earle Bruce ranked Florida No. 2 and Michigan third in the Harris Interactive poll.
Harris poll voting oddities
• What was Jim Walden thinking? Walden, a former coach at Iowa State and Washington State, voted Florida No. 1 in the Harris Interactive poll. Then Ohio State. Then Michigan.
• Here are some who voted Michigan FOURTH in the poll: Tim Neverett (play-by-play announcer from Colorado); Gene Ponti (Louisiana sports radio host); Paul Zeise (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) and Ray Melick (Birmingham (Ala.) Post-Herald). Louisville was Zeise's second ranked team.
• Former sports writer Larry Keech voted Boise State No. 2, Michigan No. 3 and Florida No. 5. Hmm, sounds like a protest vote.
More coaches weigh in
Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis said he had U-M No. 2 to "show respect to the team that beat us."
LSU coach Les Miles, a Michigan alum, voted Florida No. 2 because, "I felt like the winner of the SEC conference might well deserve an opportunity."
Looks like Miles killed his chances of succeeding Carr in Ann Arbor.
Political arm
Former U-M quarterback Tom Brady, before Sunday night's official announcement: "Anyone who has seen them play realizes it is a no-brainer. Florida is not very good."
FREE PRESS STAFF AND WIRE SERVICES
Ohio State coach Jim Tressel refused to vote in the USA Today coaches poll that determined his opponent for the BCS title game.
Coaches' votes remain secret throughout the season until this week's poll. USA Today intended to publish the votes -- from No. 1 to No. 25 -- of all 63 coaches in today's editions and at www.usatoday.com.
Tressel cited a conflict of interest for not voting.
"I have so much respect for both Michigan and Florida," Tressel said. "Obviously, there are only two teams that had a shot at playing us in the national championship game. I didn't think it was appropriate that Ohio State would cast a ballot one way or the other."
Tressel's move didn't please Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.
Asked about Tressel's decision, Carr said he would never abstain from voting and, "I thought it was real slick."
USA Today's managing editor for sports, Monte Lorell, said in a statement: "We are disappointed with Coach Tressel's decision, but our oversight role does not grant us authority to compel his participation.
"Coach Tressel's future involvement in the poll will be part of our annual review with (American Football Coaches Association) executive director Grant Teaff."
One former Buckeyes coach voted. Earle Bruce ranked Florida No. 2 and Michigan third in the Harris Interactive poll.
Harris poll voting oddities
• What was Jim Walden thinking? Walden, a former coach at Iowa State and Washington State, voted Florida No. 1 in the Harris Interactive poll. Then Ohio State. Then Michigan.
• Here are some who voted Michigan FOURTH in the poll: Tim Neverett (play-by-play announcer from Colorado); Gene Ponti (Louisiana sports radio host); Paul Zeise (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) and Ray Melick (Birmingham (Ala.) Post-Herald). Louisville was Zeise's second ranked team.
• Former sports writer Larry Keech voted Boise State No. 2, Michigan No. 3 and Florida No. 5. Hmm, sounds like a protest vote.
More coaches weigh in
Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis said he had U-M No. 2 to "show respect to the team that beat us."
LSU coach Les Miles, a Michigan alum, voted Florida No. 2 because, "I felt like the winner of the SEC conference might well deserve an opportunity."
Looks like Miles killed his chances of succeeding Carr in Ann Arbor.
Political arm
Former U-M quarterback Tom Brady, before Sunday night's official announcement: "Anyone who has seen them play realizes it is a no-brainer. Florida is not very good."
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
We couldn't just do it off of conference champions cause teams like Boise would be in & Michigan would still be out...it doesn't make sense.
But in our current system, winning the conference is important, so that the BCS has at least one leg to stand on and seem "legitimate". Methinks that this year is in some way an atonement for leaving a 12-0 Auburn team out of the BCS title game a few years ago. Doesn't do much good for Tommy Tuberville, but the SEC commish probably feels good right now.
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Originally Posted by Marc Carpenter
How many times in the past 5 years has Michigan beaten Ohio State?????
End of subject...Go kick some Trojan butt......
End of subject...Go kick some Trojan butt......
I'm all for the top 8 setup, only if they eliminate the polls and just let the computer run the numbers. The only human element involved should be the players duking it out on the field. I also think they should release the formula used to calculate the rankings. That way, we all know where everyone stands and what has to be done to move up.
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Originally Posted by dzervit
What does the past have to do with this year? If you want to talk history why not look at the overal record with the two schools? End of story!
I'm all for the top 8 setup, only if they eliminate the polls and just let the computer run the numbers. The only human element involved should be the players duking it out on the field. I also think they should release the formula used to calculate the rankings. That way, we all know where everyone stands and what has to be done to move up.
I'm all for the top 8 setup, only if they eliminate the polls and just let the computer run the numbers. The only human element involved should be the players duking it out on the field. I also think they should release the formula used to calculate the rankings. That way, we all know where everyone stands and what has to be done to move up.
I, for one, would hate for computers to be picking the rankings. If they went to computer-only, the instances of fraud would probably go up, as those computer rankings are only as good as those that put in the parameters for the computers to use.
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Originally Posted by dzervit
.. I also think they should release the formula used to calculate the rankings. That way, we all know where everyone stands and what has to be done to move up.