You have to be kidding right?

That or your a diehard liberal without a brain...

 

im 19 ..


its funny but reading crap like this makes me take a step back and realize what stupid GNIKCUF creatures we really are..


if i dont see any MAJOR geo political changes within my lifetime ( hoping i get a 60+ year lifetime ) i'd consider it a miracle..


or maybe that super volcano under yellowstone will blow and really shake things up scientist say its 60,000+ years overdue

 

Actually, I am an educator,and we tend to be liberals. I, however, lean a little bit to the moderates. And, yes, my friend, I do have a brain... if you think that liberals are the enemy---well, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and the whole bunch would be very disappointed if they came back. Not over the liberals; not over the conservatives; but over the greed that drives all of them. I will not disagree with you that our democracy has changed---but what has driven that change is plain ol' American Greed. Pork bellies and lobbiests, my friend. I am not a communist---I love our country and our democracy---but I see things from a different perspective---and that,sir, is indeed protected by the Constitution, is it not---just as you have the same right to see points differently, as well. There has always been discussion and dissention; that is indeed what makes this country great.



Tim C.

 

I feel a little odd pointing this out to an educator, and mean no disrespect but... if you look at what I said, I said "fought", as in past tense. I'm not all that concerned that this country will ever become a communist country. I am concerned that it could become a socialist country thought. It's already trending that way. I, and many people I know, work much to hard to support the portion of our population that is capable of supporting themselves but doesn't. There used to be this thing called survival of the fittest, however we can't have that because we are compationate people. So, I must continue to break my body so that I can survive and a portion of our population can get a hand out.

What Rangel is doing is nothing more than political manuvering. When this was an issue in '04, just before the elections, there was strong opposition to even the mere mention of a draft. For some reason now is a good thing because young people are lost souls and should be required to recieve some "guidence".

It's ridiculous to propose a military draft during war time. The reason Rangel is giving is total bull, and the statistics say so. I don't understand why we are even discussing this. Why not require parents of these children with "lost souls" to recieve training on how to be a goo parent. Does that sound ridiculous?

 

I just had my father into talk about the Great Depression---and one point that is so true is that back then---people did not want a handout---they wanted to work for what they received. Today I do feel that that has changed. Wittom, I agree with you, but Social Security , Medicare,and Medicaid are helping my father and mother---who worked for decades to receive it. In that aspect, I guess that part of socialism is OK---I also agree though that many people are more comfortable taking a hand-out than working for it.

Tim C.

 

Things are very different now than they were a reletively short time ago. I'm not sure why as I've only been on this earth for thirty-four years and it's only been the last ten years that I really started paying attention. I personally don't know of an alternative for working for a living.

People like your parents and their generation have earned their social security and medicare. They aren't taking a hand out they are getting a return on their investment, that being years of hard work. They deserve what they get. I also believe that there are some people from younger generations that need help from the tax payers. It's ok to help the ones who really need help but there are far too many taking advantage.

If you have parents that were working during the depression, you have a few years on me. My parents were born just after, during the war. It's people my age, give or take, that should be the ones that start the new way of doing things. We aren't going to have social security to rely on. We need alternatives.

To bring this back to topic,... Rangel is saying that it's the poor, uneducated minorities that fight wars. That is simply not the case. Perhaps he is right that there aren't a lot of people from Yale and Harvard fighting on the front lines. I'm not so sure that people like that are the type that we'de want at the front line. I'm not sure what the GPA, or SAT scores are of our millitary, but I don't for one second believe that they are the bottom of the list that this country has to offer. These people posess something that we civillians don't have: outstanding bravery. It's pretty easy for us here to simplify war but I think the boots on the ground have a lot more to deal with than we even know. Just the logistics are incredibly complicated. This isn't WWI, it's modern warfare with technology that we aren't even privy to.

Rangel says that he wants the draft because it will end all war. Reasonable? I don't think so. Do we want academics fighting wars or do we want our bravest, strongest, smartest men and women fightning? I don't think that Rangel feels the same about our millitary as I do. I think he sees it as quantity, when I see it as quality. I think the way it is now gives us better quality than we would see with a draft.

 

I am 52---this is my 30th year in education. I have never seen anybody from the "college prep" courses join the military (at least from my school.) If they do go into the military, it is through ROTC scholarships and they come out of college an officer. Remember, some of our smartest are at West Point, the AF Academy, and at Annopolis---somehow they too are attracted to what the US military has to offer---if they make it a career.

Most of my former students who join are not college bound kids who do want to make something of their lives---they do not want to punch a time clock ---and the military can do that for them. They are brave and virtuous---and are to be thanked for giving their time (and unfortunatley, perhaps their lives) for us.

I love being an educator---and I see them come back from bootcamp---some stand on the yellow footprints at Camp Lejeune, some do their training at Lackland AFB, and some go into the US Army. They change so much when they return! I have also, unfortunately, had to go to a funeral for one of my former students who was killed in Iraq. I had his wife in class, as well.

I am also fortunate that my retirement is an excellent one---through the Ohio State Teachers' Retirement System. I could retire this year, but I plan on working five more---

What does bother me is that for some there is a dependence on the gov't. I feel that there should be sometypes ofsafety nets---for a short period of time, but too may are too much inclined to NOT WORK. I do not at all feel sorry for them---but I have indeed seen their children in my 30 years in the classroom---those are the ones that we have to reach and to change; otherwise, they may be just as dependent as their folks down the road.

Tim C.