Some people are such a waste of oxygen
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From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
I grew up "in the church." I understand religion and it's attraction. I once believed, as a child, in God. I also believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Great Pumpkin. Well, maybe not the Great Pumpkin. LOL
I grew to understand that God is nothing more that the answer to the unanswerable questions that men have. The more we understand about things, the smaller God gets. I am not professing to understand the Universe anymore than the next guy; but, I'm not going to follow a religion that is, to my mind, little more than believing the Sun is pulled across the sky by Helios.
Is there a higher power, a greater being(s), a creator? I'd say maybe; but, I'm pretty sure he isn't intimately involved with each and every creature in the Universe. Is there an afterlife or something beyond death? Maybe again; but, I don't think it's anything like what has been taught by any religion. I'm not sure even that murderers are treated any differently in it than saints will be.
I don't begrudge anyone their beliefs. I do take umbrage to being told I'm going to hell unless I believe what you do. As do all the people who have different religious beliefs than Christians.
I'm human, imperfect in every way that others are. In the moment that I face death, I may find religion again out of fear. It doesn't mean that what I think now isn't true. It proves my imperfection. I hope I'm strong enough to hold to my convictions even then. I'd hate to die a hypocrite; but, I won't live as one.
I grew to understand that God is nothing more that the answer to the unanswerable questions that men have. The more we understand about things, the smaller God gets. I am not professing to understand the Universe anymore than the next guy; but, I'm not going to follow a religion that is, to my mind, little more than believing the Sun is pulled across the sky by Helios.
Is there a higher power, a greater being(s), a creator? I'd say maybe; but, I'm pretty sure he isn't intimately involved with each and every creature in the Universe. Is there an afterlife or something beyond death? Maybe again; but, I don't think it's anything like what has been taught by any religion. I'm not sure even that murderers are treated any differently in it than saints will be.
I don't begrudge anyone their beliefs. I do take umbrage to being told I'm going to hell unless I believe what you do. As do all the people who have different religious beliefs than Christians.
I'm human, imperfect in every way that others are. In the moment that I face death, I may find religion again out of fear. It doesn't mean that what I think now isn't true. It proves my imperfection. I hope I'm strong enough to hold to my convictions even then. I'd hate to die a hypocrite; but, I won't live as one.
I totally understand what you are saying. I was born and raised a Catholic. Had my sacraments....Baptism, Communion, Confirmation. However, there are certain things I don't believe in what the Catholic church does or tries to tell us what to do. However, I look at those things as man made "rules". I too have made certain mistakes in life, like we all have. I don't believe I am going to Hell for them. I don't believe in confessing my "sins" to a priest. He is a person just like me. I try to be the best person I can be, but more for myself, my family and friends than a greater being. I could go on and on, but I will end with this. I do believe in God and I do believe there is a Heaven or at least something like it. At least I hope there is, because sometimes where we are at now can seem like Hell.
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From: Hammer Lane
Originally Posted by Peacemaker
I respect your beliefs. And I won't try to push mine because I've got a lot of learning to do myself. I'm just saying what I believe.
And I'm cool with that.
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From: Your moms house
Originally Posted by lovetrucks
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I don't believe in confessing my "sins" to a priest. He is a person just like me.
I don't believe in confessing my "sins" to a priest. He is a person just like me.
I agree. If you want to confess:
1. Get your bible, go sit under a tree in your back yard and talk to him....it's called prayer.
2. When your done, think of something you can do to make what you did wrong, right again.
..and hey, if your not religious, skip the first part.
Simple, huh?
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From: Pikesville, MD
Originally Posted by wild-mtn-rose
I don't think you're too far gone at all...I think you like whips, masks and stilettos and you make those comments so's I'll bust 'em out and punish you. You like to be punished don't ya big boy?? 
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From: Somewhere near the back of beyond
Originally Posted by vader716
Well I guess I'd try the first two at least once but the heels...yes I have a weakness...my wife knows it and exploits it...the evil wench...I am powerless over a sexy set of heels...
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I read the first post and I've been avoiding this post since it really bothered me hearing what that guy did. I just didn't want the downer of a conversation. But, after seeing the post went 6 pages, I figured it somehow got hijaked and decided to read it.
First and most importantly... I think we might be up to 5 or 6 or whatever for believers. Whatever the count is you can add one more. I won't try to spread my beliefs here... if you want to know, you can ask and I'll be more than happy to have a conversation privately. BTW Lovetrucks... I think you'd be more comfortable in a protestant church than the catholic church, just going by what you said.
Secondly this is just an observation on all of us. I too immediately thought of all the sick and twisted things that should happen to this guy. But in most any other case somebody will come to the defense of the accused. It could be rape, murder, whatever. Somebody will come in and say "what if he's innocent?" I haven't followed the story, maybe he's been found guilty by now though.
Lastly, remember it is not our duty to say who is or isn't going to heaven or what their reward in heaven will be. That is only up to God. Forgiveness is an amazing thing.
First and most importantly... I think we might be up to 5 or 6 or whatever for believers. Whatever the count is you can add one more. I won't try to spread my beliefs here... if you want to know, you can ask and I'll be more than happy to have a conversation privately. BTW Lovetrucks... I think you'd be more comfortable in a protestant church than the catholic church, just going by what you said.
Secondly this is just an observation on all of us. I too immediately thought of all the sick and twisted things that should happen to this guy. But in most any other case somebody will come to the defense of the accused. It could be rape, murder, whatever. Somebody will come in and say "what if he's innocent?" I haven't followed the story, maybe he's been found guilty by now though.
Lastly, remember it is not our duty to say who is or isn't going to heaven or what their reward in heaven will be. That is only up to God. Forgiveness is an amazing thing.
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Originally Posted by BennyHanna
Lastly, remember it is not our duty to say who is or isn't going to heaven or what their reward in heaven will be. That is only up to God. Forgiveness is an amazing thing.
People change. On a serious note, it may take a life-time to happen, but you can never tell what God's will is for you. I don't care how tough you think you are, you can't stop it from happening. I believe that what a person believes now in their heart, plays a big role in God's participation in the outcome of their future. The life and times of some of the meanest men in the history of man-kind were chosen to be told in the Bible to set an example of how God can change the hearts of even the most cruel and hard-hearted men and women. Moses killed a man for trying to kill his friend. But he still went to Heaven when he died. One person's opinion of another person doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, even now and yet to come. If your making fun of how a person looks, dresses, talks, walks, what they did, or even what they drive, your making fun of God's will. He has a plan for us all. Everything that happens in your life, happens for a reason. Perhaps Saddam Hussein might feel sorry for what he has done in his life, and repent of his sins to God in the last ten seconds of his life, and is forgiven and goes to Heaven. What would you think about that? I'm in no way supporting Saddam. I'm just merely saying hate the sin, not the person. To hate a person is to hate what God has created. To hate a sin, is to hate what satan has created.
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From: Pikesville, MD
Originally Posted by BRUZRs_Daddy
I'm glad we've stirred up a hunger here. At first, it was a pissing match, but now it's productive.
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update on henry from utah humane society...
i just read about the terrible thing that happened to henry the dog
(where he was burned in an oven). is there some way for me to help with his medical bills or donate some items to him like a new dog bed or something to make his life easier?
reply...................
Thank you so much for your very caring and compassionate letter. The
judge in Henry's case ordered his abuser, Marc Vincent, to pay nearly
$1,000 to cover Henry's veterinary bills, so that has already been taken
care of. As for Henry himself, his "mom" - - Marc Vincent's ex-wife - -
is very devoted to the dog, and he is much loved and well cared for.
She takes him to her place of work with her every day, so he is never
alone. In spite of the permanent injuries Henry suffered, he appears to
have adapted well and is happy with the person who so obviously loves
him.
I will, however, forward your kind comments to the former Mrs.
Vincent, and she can let you know exactly how Henry is doing.\
Again, we very deeply appreciate your generous concern.
Katharine Brant
Director of Publications/Membership
KBRANT@utahhumane.org
i just read about the terrible thing that happened to henry the dog
(where he was burned in an oven). is there some way for me to help with his medical bills or donate some items to him like a new dog bed or something to make his life easier?
reply...................
Thank you so much for your very caring and compassionate letter. The
judge in Henry's case ordered his abuser, Marc Vincent, to pay nearly
$1,000 to cover Henry's veterinary bills, so that has already been taken
care of. As for Henry himself, his "mom" - - Marc Vincent's ex-wife - -
is very devoted to the dog, and he is much loved and well cared for.
She takes him to her place of work with her every day, so he is never
alone. In spite of the permanent injuries Henry suffered, he appears to
have adapted well and is happy with the person who so obviously loves
him.
I will, however, forward your kind comments to the former Mrs.
Vincent, and she can let you know exactly how Henry is doing.\
Again, we very deeply appreciate your generous concern.
Katharine Brant
Director of Publications/Membership
KBRANT@utahhumane.org