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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen848
As much as many of you don't agree....Dr. Franko is absolutely correct.

He had probable cause to believe that she took his money....it was his mistake, but it was still probable cause. If she would have listened to him when she was told she was under arrest, he would have arrested her then evidence (the tape) would have been used in court, and the case would have been dismissed as the officer was wrong.

The bottom line....when a police officer tells you that you are under arrest, you listen, or deal with the consequences.

However, I would have handeled the situation MUCH differently.
So if I have " probable cause" someone stole something from me I just spray them with mace??
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trooks2001
So if I have " probable cause" someone stole something from me I just spray them with mace??
Nope, you're not a cop and don't have the authority to arrest someone for a misdemeanor commited in your presence. (or a belief that one did in this case). You'd have to go the complaint/warrant route.

I'm just stating the law here fellas, don't take it personal and get all bent out of shape.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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WTF!

He had NO reason to arrest her or try to arrest her. Just because you're a cop doesn't mean you can go around placing people under arrest just because you are a dumbass. I'd love to see all of the people who think he was 'right' in the same situation and see how they acted. .

PS: I know you preach what you would of done in the situation on here, but thats completely different than what you really would of done.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Franko, Cpenhagen, are you guys cops?...I hope not
Yes I am....are you a lawyer?

I'm not trying to start a big fight here....and yes that situation looked very bad and I would have handeled it much differently. I'm just explaining why he was cleared of any wrong doing.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by myltlpny
...most cops are honorable people.
Dude, where are you from? The football star in high school could not get into college, and became a cop instead. I'm from the south, as a lot of people on here are, and most cops around here are rednecks with badges, they became cops so they could carry around a gun and be legally menacing...

...just like the cop in that video.

NOTE: My apologies to all police on this forum. I do accept that there are honorable and just police in the world but I believe that they are few and far between.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen848
Nope, you're not a cop and don't have the authority to arrest someone for a misdemeanor commited in your presence. (or a belief that one did in this case). You'd have to go the complaint/warrant route.

I'm just stating the law here fellas, don't take it personal and get all bent out of shape.
No I'm not a cop. I just know how it feels to have power hungary cops running around. I got his with a taser a year or so ago cause I was near some people fighting. He got fired and I think this idiot should have to.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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the cop should not have even been behind the counter in the first place. he should have went inside and asked for the manager. if I was in her position, and was told that I was under arrest over some bull**** like that, I'd have done the same thing. well, I probably wouldn't have told the cop I'm waitin til mama come, but other than that, I think she handled herself pretty well considering how much of a ***** the cop was being to her. I mean, this is I'm guessing a 17 year old girl that's just trying to earn an honest living and supercop just busts up in her workplace and accuses her of stealing his money and spraying her with mase? come on man, you cant tell me she was in the wrong and how the justice system messed up by rewarding her. man this kind of stuff gets me fired up, haha.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
...eventually.

Since you know what's going on, what was the probable cause for her arrest? The only thing I saw was her resisting arrest...but arent you supposed to resist unlawful things considering that is a blatant violation of her Constitutional rights?
See post #32. He believed that she took his money. As the evidence on the tape showed, he was wrong, and that sucks, but he still believed it. He is a police officer that believed a misdemeanor was committed in his presence which was his probable cause and when he went in and told her she was under arrest, she resisted and was sprayed.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen848
See post #32. He believed that she took his money. As the evidence on the tape showed, he was wrong, and that sucks, be he still believed it. He is a police officer that believed a misdemeanor was committed in his presence which was his probable cause and when he went in and told her she was under arrest, she resisted and was sprayed.
if he was a responsible cop and cared enough about his job he would have made sure that he did not make a mistake and that the girl did indeed take his money before pursuing making an arrest on the girl. he should have spoken with the manager first before plowing behind the counter like he owned the place. to make it even easier to place the cop in the wrong, both the girl and the manager showed him the cash register and there was no $20 in there. he should have asked to view the security camera to verify that that information was true and if there was any question about it, then he should have moved towards taking the girl into custody. the girl was very mouthy, however she never posed a threat to the police officer so there was no need for the mace. I'm just sorry that cops like this give a bad name to some of the brave and honest men that try to protect our communities on a daily basis.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by captain morgan8
if he was a responsible cop and cared enough about his job he would have made sure that he did not make a mistake and that the girl did indeed take his money before pursuing making an arrest on the girl. he should have spoken with the manager first before plowing behind the counter like he owned the place. to make it even easier to place the cop in the wrong, both the girl and the manager showed him the cash register and there was no $20 in there. he should have asked to view the security camera to verify that that information was true and if there was any question about it, then he should have moved towards taking the girl into custody. the girl was very mouthy, however she never posed a threat to the police officer so there was no need for the mace. I'm just sorry that cops like this give a bad name to some of the brave and honest men that try to protect our communities on a daily basis.
I agree 100%.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Barney Fife there is going to kill some one... If he will spray a minor for that, if that is his method to take control of a minor situation like that. Then god forbid he gets in a real confrontation. He'll just start blasting caps in the general direction putting innnocent civilian bystanders at lethal risk, the perp probably wont even be armed.

He's a moron, he's a liablility and a risk to public safety, he need his badge removed and yes she definatly deserved every penny and then some.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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This thread is better than expected


And yes, the cop was wrong.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Man, I wanna be a cop so when the chick at the corner 7-11 shorts me $1.00for my daily can of Skoal I can spray her when she says the $1.00 off coupon is only if I buy a roll, then I'll have her thrown in the clink for resisting arrest and then justify it by saying I thought a misdemeanor occured in my presence. Ah, the U.S. of A., the home of the free and brave, where you are guilty until proven innocen...errr I mean, innocent until proven guilty.

I've been pulled over 3 times in my life because the cops thought I was going to fast but did not actually know how fast I was going. One of times I got pulled over it was the 15th of Dec at about 3am and the cop turn my car upside down looking for drugs or something, anything and then after that called a K9 unit in to have the dog go through my car and then after finding nothing left me on the side of the road with the $h!+ from my car strewn all over the said of the road. He did not even apologize.

We had a cop in my home town who used to pull out behind cars he was young girls in. He would follow them until he got a report back on the tag then pull them over to pull them out of the car and pat them down if they were hot. This same cop used to carry his service weapon while wearing civilian cothes when he went out to eat in neighboring counties with his family.

I got pulled over one time because to aviod an accident I crossed the centerline. That got me yelled at for 45 minutes. I was living in Cookeville at the time and I drove a silver Saab and the cop told me I had the only car like in the county and if he ever even heard that I got pulled over on his radio he would come to the stop and arrest me.

There was a big stink in the county I live in now a few years back because a cop had secretly taken an audio recorder to a meeting w/ all the other cops from the county and the police chief. it was supposed to be a closed meeting, but the cop gave the tape to the Local media and it was played on the 6:00pm news and you coulds clearly hear the chief B!+ching because the cops were not pulling enough poeople over and writing them tickets to get him and the other police leaders bonuses for that year.

A few years back a cop in Cookeville shot and killed a toy poodle during a "routing" traffic stop because it would not stop barking.

I have a friend that was at a house party in Knoxville. He and 50+ other people were out in the yard drinking. The cops were called because of a noise complaint. My friend was drunk, but he was on private property. One of the cops that responded as him to come to the car to speak w/ him about the noise. My friend sat the bottle down and as soon as he stepped on the side the cop arressted him for public intox.

Thge moral of the stories...most cops are total A$$HOLE$ because they can be and that is the long and the short of it. That is just my $.02
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Chris Roc- How not to get your *** kicked by Police

Contains some profanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCCjFbFXn8
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen848
See post #32. He believed that she took his money. As the evidence on the tape showed, he was wrong, and that sucks, but he still believed it. He is a police officer that believed a misdemeanor was committed in his presence which was his probable cause and when he went in and told her she was under arrest, she resisted and was sprayed.
If he was clear of any wrongdoing, the why was she awarded $60k by the court system?

Could it possibly be because he was wrong and violated her constitutional rights and used excessive force on a minor who was not fleeing and posed no physical threat towards him?

Or is that particular court system in the habit of awarding people $60k when they don't have a case?
 
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