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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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She should have taken one step further and sued him directly (such as in civil court). He basically got out of it with the city's police department having to pay.
First, I agree, second SWEET Mustang, I have a GT as well, third, how in the hell do you have a join date of 1969?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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I agree with Wild Bill...Take it out of his pay.
 

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Its called resisting arrest. He told her she was under arrest three times. Twice he told her to come with him now or she was going to get sprayed. All he got back was her attitude and yelling. Should he have tackled her instead and then put the cuffs on?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
First, I agree, second SWEET Mustang, I have a GT as well, third, how in the hell do you have a join date of 1969?
Thanks, what color is yours?

I've been signed up here a long, long time.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Its called resisting arrest. He told her she was under arrest three times. Twice he told her to come with him now or she was going to get sprayed. All he got back was her attitude and yelling. Should he have tackled her instead and then put the cuffs on?
Under arrest for what? She had commited no crime, it was also proven to him, or would have been if he shut his mouth and listened to the guy in charge. Just because he is a cop does NOT mean he is in charge.

Add that one to the list, he should have been charged with false arrest as well, the stupid moron...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Thanks, what color is yours?

I've been signed up here a long, long time.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Its called resisting arrest. He told her she was under arrest three times. Twice he told her to come with him now or she was going to get sprayed. All he got back was her attitude and yelling. Should he have tackled her instead and then put the cuffs on?
None of the above. He shouldn't have sprayed her, tackled her, or cuffed her. He should have called for a female officer to come to the scene and assist. A female officer would need to be there anyway to search her, since he decided it was so imperative that she be placed under arrest. There was also a need for another officer because he is the supposed victim/complainant, and him also being the arresting officer complicates the matter. He can't look at it from a neutral perspective. She was not being a threat, there was no where for her to escape, she notified him several times that she was a minor, and there was no need to escalate force.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport

Cool!

I remember you posting pictures here when you got it, right?

That blue would have been my choice if I didn't go with black.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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What size are those wheels 01? Did they come stock, or did you buy aftermarket wheels for it? Nice car. Is that what they call Vista Blue?

All right, I'm done with the fourty questions.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill
None of the above. He shouldn't have sprayed her, tackled her, or cuffed her. He should have called for a female officer to come to the scene and assist. A female officer would need to be there anyway to search her, since he decided it was so imperative that she be placed under arrest. There was also a need for another officer because he is the supposed victim/complainant, and him also being the arresting officer complicates the matter. He can't look at it from a neutral perspective. She was not being a threat, there was no where for her to escape, she notified him several times that she was a minor, and there was no need to escalate force.

This has nothing to do with being a threat or escape risk and there was no need for a female officer at the time. Had she not been combative she probably would not have been arrested in the first place. Unfair? Maybe, but that's life.

1. He had probable cause to question and, or, arrest her.
2. When clearly placed under arrest she resisted.

Unless there are other facts than what we saw on the tape I do not understand why there was a settlement payout.

If you think you can behave the way she did, and then get a big settlement from resisting arrest, you will learn a lesson about the justice system and your "rights". Please report back on your progress after the altercation.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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He was wrong. Plain and simple. I'd tell him where to go too if I knew for a fact that I was right. She wasn't resisting as far as I could see because she wasn't making a run for it. She stood her ground and told it like it was. That's called freedom of speech. Not being combative. I didn't see any fist flying. She had the right to tell her side of the story, but the cop was too infuriated with his misconception to stop and listen. The cop was the aggressor, and she was being attacked under wrongful suspicion. That's his fault. IMO she deserved the money she got out. That's life.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
It's 100% completey his fault and NO one elses fault...

What orders? In my opinon he had no business being behind the counter like any other citizen of which he is. He is no better then any other citizen. He should have filed a complaint like any other customer.

Last I knew if you thought you were short changed you can't just call the police in and start hauling people away ESPECIALLY after you have been proven wrong like the manager proved him wrong by telling the idiot there were no $20's.

What part of "there is no $20's" did the idiot not understand? He was an @ss whipe with an ego who thought he was God. Was the girl mouthy? Absolutely but it DID not warrant AT ALL his actions PERIOD! It doesn't matter if I told a cop I thought he was an idiot there is NOTHING he can do legally. Of course I would never say that to a cop if I was getting a ticket but if one walked up to me and asked what I thought and I said it well to bad so sad not a damn thing he can do legally...
Very well said. The guy was a jerk.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
This has nothing to do with being a threat or escape risk and there was no need for a female officer at the time. Had she not been combative she probably would not have been arrested in the first place. Unfair? Maybe, but that's life.

1. He had probable cause to question and, or, arrest her.
2. When clearly placed under arrest she resisted.

Unless there are other facts than what we saw on the tape I do not understand why there was a settlement payout.

If you think you can behave the way she did, and then get a big settlement from resisting arrest, you will learn a lesson about the justice system and your "rights". Please report back on your progress after the altercation.

Guess I should be a cop so I can get those damn drive-thru clerks that shorted me a nickel.... He was wrong 100% maybe he was just havin a bad day who knows?? But there was no need for his actions.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
This has nothing to do with being a threat or escape risk and there was no need for a female officer at the time. Had she not been combative she probably would not have been arrested in the first place. Unfair? Maybe, but that's life.

1. He had probable cause to question and, or, arrest her.
2. When clearly placed under arrest she resisted.

Unless there are other facts than what we saw on the tape I do not understand why there was a settlement payout.

If you think you can behave the way she did, and then get a big settlement from resisting arrest, you will learn a lesson about the justice system and your "rights". Please report back on your progress after the altercation.
Combative? Did you watch the same video I did? She was not being combative. She did not try to fight him. She was being vocal, yes. Combative, no.

He had NO probable cause to question and, or, arrest her. He didn't give her a $20, he gave her a $10 as was seen in the video. The manager verified there were no $20 in the cash register. All of her actions were captured on video, it could have been no where else. He arrested a minor under false pretense, with escalated force, and you don't know why she won a settlement?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
This has nothing to do with being a threat or escape risk and there was no need for a female officer at the time. Had she not been combative she probably would not have been arrested in the first place. Unfair? Maybe, but that's life.

1. He had probable cause to question and, or, arrest her.
2. When clearly placed under arrest she resisted.

Unless there are other facts than what we saw on the tape I do not understand why there was a settlement payout.

If you think you can behave the way she did, and then get a big settlement from resisting arrest, you will learn a lesson about the justice system and your "rights". Please report back on your progress after the altercation.
As much as many of you don't agree....Dr. Franko is absolutely correct.

He had probable cause to believe that she took his money....it was his mistake, but it was still probable cause. If she would have listened to him when she was told she was under arrest, he would have arrested her then evidence (the tape) would have been used in court, and the case would have been dismissed as the officer was wrong.

The bottom line....when a police officer tells you that you are under arrest, you listen, or deal with the consequences.

However, I would have handeled the situation MUCH differently.
 
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