Does it pay to do the right thing?????
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Mongongo,
That is pretty harsh. They were both acting pretty irresponsibly IMO but if I were your father I would have paid and then demanded visitation.
Man divorce and children out of wedlock are so hard on everyone but especially the kids.
That is pretty harsh. They were both acting pretty irresponsibly IMO but if I were your father I would have paid and then demanded visitation.
Man divorce and children out of wedlock are so hard on everyone but especially the kids.
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Originally Posted by MONGONGO
For 14 years I can only remember about from 8 or so till 14. However I can remember, my mom yelling at my father "No child support No seeing your kid" Dad yelling "no seeing kid no child support" Mom would hide me at grand parents half the time.. what a mess! Then wham I was 14 and moved in with dad! boy did he have fun with that.. Im sure glad they enjoyed it. Im 36 now and still think about it.
Moms, Dads pay your child support. Even if the kid dont see it all. Just pay it and someday down the road the kid will grow up and thank you for at least trying.
Moms, Dads pay your child support. Even if the kid dont see it all. Just pay it and someday down the road the kid will grow up and thank you for at least trying.
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Karma is a bitch man!
Seriously, it's too bad he doesn't man up and do what's right by him. I guess he could argue that he is in fact supporting the kid, but it sounds like he could care less about the kid. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Originally Posted by KSUWildcat
. . . it sounds like he could care less about the kid. I hope I'm wrong though.
You are if you meant to write " . . . couldn't care less."
This is a common mistake but twice in the same thread within a hour or so, damn!
I may make it my new goal in life to teach the country the difference between could/couldn't care less.
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Dammit, you're right. Had I taken the time to actually read the entire thread I would have picked up on that.
I had an English teacher just like you, your last name wouldn't happen to be Lind would it?
Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
I had an English teacher just like you, your last name wouldn't happen to be Lind would it?
Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
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Originally Posted by KSUWildcat
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Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
It's expected. Kobi got me for the EXACT same typo.
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Originally Posted by Raoul
The payoff is when you look in the mirror.
Consider how many mirrors are in your house.
Most vehicles have at least three or four.
Think about how many mirrors you run into on a daily basis.
Only when mirrors are banished from the Earth will doing the right thing cease to pay.
Consider how many mirrors are in your house.
Most vehicles have at least three or four.
Think about how many mirrors you run into on a daily basis.
Only when mirrors are banished from the Earth will doing the right thing cease to pay.
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Originally Posted by KSUWildcat
Dammit, you're right. Had I taken the time to actually read the entire thread I would have picked up on that.
I had an English teacher just like you, you're last name wouldn't happen to be Lind would it?
Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
I had an English teacher just like you, you're last name wouldn't happen to be Lind would it?
Jamz, I think this thread has started drifting into oblivion, I apologize. Sorry it's so soon...it's kobi's fault!
I'm going to assume you wrote "dammit" for fun, otherwise it's "Damn it!" not "dammit".
However, the rest of your sentence, well, it's so nice to see someone on this board who knows how to use contractions. (Come to think of it, dammit it could be considered a colloquial elision, but not really). I know I myself use the ellipsis punctuation to represent a long pause when in fact it means no such thing, but that is my artistic style, so I'm going to cut you some slack.
And yes, my last name is Lind. Do you have a problem with that?!?!?!?!
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OK I QUIT!! It's Friday and I'm ready to get out of here. Forgive my sloppy transition from my mind to my fingertips.
BTW, might I suggest a dash to represent a pause in thought - that's how Lind taught me how to do it! To be correct it is actually a double hyphen to represent the dash -- but that looks goofy.
BTW, might I suggest a dash to represent a pause in thought - that's how Lind taught me how to do it! To be correct it is actually a double hyphen to represent the dash -- but that looks goofy.
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Originally Posted by UrbanCowboy
You really don't get what Raoul wrote?
Really, I dont. Can you explain it to me with out pointing out the fact that I'm a complete idiot...if it's that obvious?
thanks.
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Originally Posted by KSUWildcat
OK I QUIT!! It's Friday and I'm ready to get out of here. Forgive my sloppy transition from my mind to my fingertips.
BTW, might I suggest a dash to represent a pause in thought - that's how Lind taught me how to do it! To be correct it is actually a double hyphen to represent the dash -- but that looks goofy.
BTW, might I suggest a dash to represent a pause in thought - that's how Lind taught me how to do it! To be correct it is actually a double hyphen to represent the dash -- but that looks goofy.
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Originally Posted by jamzwayne
Really, I dont. Can you explain it to me with out pointing out the fact that I'm a complete idiot...if it's that obvious?
thanks.
thanks.
I'll let UC point out the transparent meaning in Raoul's post.
But remember what Raoul said...don't be ashamed you are doing the best with what you have.
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Originally Posted by kobiashi
Jamz -
Actually I am surprised that the payment of child support would still be required after one of the parents remarries and the child is cared for in the new family.
Irrespective of that, are you asking a question only with regard to the more philosophical/moral issues or the practical?
Should he pay? Of course he should, just as you should continue paying your child support too. Is it the right thing to do? Yes, and that's why you (and he) should do it. Y'all should do it because you love your children and you wish to continuing to provide for their care. (By the way, I hope when you were asking if he doesn't, then why should you continue to do so that you were not being serious otherwise we've got some talking to do there buddy).
Now, on the practical side, are you asking if your wife has recourse? Don't know because I don't know Texas Law. First and foremost, if the money received from the girl's father is not an issue in terms of "need" then at least know that it means that your wife should not be putting herself thru any undue stress. His not paying does not mean you will end up homeless or the girl will starve. So let go of the stress because it's not life threatening. Now, with regard to wanting to force him to pay based on a matter of principle, well, that depends on what the law is. If the officer is correct and as long as he pays every 6 weeks there's nothing you can do about it, then there's nothing you can do about it (and hence no reason to stress). However, I wouldn't take the officer's word. Research it, find out for yourself. I seem to remember some kind of national list that listed deadbeat dads who didn't pay support (this makes me wonder if it does not fall under federal jurisdiction of some kind). Find out. If getting the money based on principle is you goal then see if you can attach wages, sue, or do whatever it takes. If it isn't that important (or not worth the trouble, and my guess that his reactions to your doing so would not make it worth the trouble) then keep thing status quo. In this case, ask yourself, is this worth pursuing? What's it going to cost us in terms of time effort and grief? The way I hear it, if you're getting anything at all, you're lucky. Is it fair? Nope. But life ain't fair. To use the system to get what's fair or to make things right is costly in terms of effort and money. Cheaters know this which is why they get away with it. So it goes.
I know that probably doesn't help, but before you take action, look at the big picture and see what all is involved then ask if it's worth it, and try not to stress either way. Like I said, it's not life and death so you've got that going for you so don't stress.
By the way: "To be honest, I could care less if the low life pays the child support or not."
That should be "I couldn't care less . . . "
Actually I am surprised that the payment of child support would still be required after one of the parents remarries and the child is cared for in the new family.
Irrespective of that, are you asking a question only with regard to the more philosophical/moral issues or the practical?
Should he pay? Of course he should, just as you should continue paying your child support too. Is it the right thing to do? Yes, and that's why you (and he) should do it. Y'all should do it because you love your children and you wish to continuing to provide for their care. (By the way, I hope when you were asking if he doesn't, then why should you continue to do so that you were not being serious otherwise we've got some talking to do there buddy).
Now, on the practical side, are you asking if your wife has recourse? Don't know because I don't know Texas Law. First and foremost, if the money received from the girl's father is not an issue in terms of "need" then at least know that it means that your wife should not be putting herself thru any undue stress. His not paying does not mean you will end up homeless or the girl will starve. So let go of the stress because it's not life threatening. Now, with regard to wanting to force him to pay based on a matter of principle, well, that depends on what the law is. If the officer is correct and as long as he pays every 6 weeks there's nothing you can do about it, then there's nothing you can do about it (and hence no reason to stress). However, I wouldn't take the officer's word. Research it, find out for yourself. I seem to remember some kind of national list that listed deadbeat dads who didn't pay support (this makes me wonder if it does not fall under federal jurisdiction of some kind). Find out. If getting the money based on principle is you goal then see if you can attach wages, sue, or do whatever it takes. If it isn't that important (or not worth the trouble, and my guess that his reactions to your doing so would not make it worth the trouble) then keep thing status quo. In this case, ask yourself, is this worth pursuing? What's it going to cost us in terms of time effort and grief? The way I hear it, if you're getting anything at all, you're lucky. Is it fair? Nope. But life ain't fair. To use the system to get what's fair or to make things right is costly in terms of effort and money. Cheaters know this which is why they get away with it. So it goes.
I know that probably doesn't help, but before you take action, look at the big picture and see what all is involved then ask if it's worth it, and try not to stress either way. Like I said, it's not life and death so you've got that going for you so don't stress.
By the way: "To be honest, I could care less if the low life pays the child support or not."
That should be "I couldn't care less . . . "
Listen to this man. He's very wise.
It's not a matter of principle. All that matters is whether the child or children are loved and well taken care of. If the money isn't needed to provide food, clothing, shelter or anything else then forget it. If he doesn't care enough about his own child to pay for those things and has nothing to do with her then he may very well just step aside. Adopt her as your own and forget the money. It's not important. Enjoy the time you have with her and forget about him. Don't allow others actions that are beyond your control to take away from you enjoying your life. I'm sure that he gets a kick out of knowing that he's upset you or disrupted your happy life. Take the kids to the park, play with them and forget about the money and what "should" be done. Your daughter looking back and remembering a happy childhood when she's 23 and knowing that you were part of the reason that is was happy will be worth more than any amount of money you may squeeze out of him.