Now I understand!!

 

I don't normally subscribe to this sort of BS (Spell checking each other), but, well, I'll just say you didn't look hard enough...
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Okay Guys, Imagine if GM, Chrysler, or Ford were to go out of business, imagine how many Americans would lose their jobs, and think of the large hit our economy would take. It would ruin America. In these times (comma needed) there are no reasons not to buy American. Between the big 3 (Spell out words below the number 10) and their respective divisions, anyone can find a product to satisfy their needs/wants. (Sentences should not be started with the word “and”) And if quality/reliability is a concern, you need to update your thinking. (Thought pattern is changing, new paragraph required)

For instance(comma needed) a 2005 Chevy Impala garners the same overall quality and reliability ratings from JD Power and Associates as a 2005 Toyota Camry, while actually garnering higher ratings in terms of body and interior dependability and mechanical quality, and the Suburban/Tahoe are the most reliable large SUV's. (Super-long sentence –aka- Run-on sentence)

Also, in a recent report by Forbes, the least reliable vehicle was made by a Japanese company, Infiniti.Finally, in a recent graph of consumer's problems per 100 cars, Buick and Cadillac were rated with less problems than Toyota,. (Comma and a period?) So to all of you who haven't looked at an American product with pride, look again!
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Now, I'm just picking at Mountaineer here. Lord knows I have typos in mine, and may have some run-on sentences too.

However, this is a forum or guys & gals I like, but I don't know or work for...
Until Steve incorporates a spelling & grammar checker into the board; I wouldn't worry about it too much...


PS- Anyone remember who that knucklehead was that wrote that LONG-*** story on here, and didn't use punctuation, no paragrpahs or anything?

People read that and complained of headaches, beign dizzy and everything else... LOL...

Who knew, as children, that punctuation would make life more liveable as we got older?

 

See, it's not so bad, is it?

 

With all due respect I must disagree with the above. If income in general declines then so would prices of products. It goes back to the basics of supply and demand. If I am making less money now I can not buy as much product. Therefore my demand has went down and supply goes up.

For a manufacture to move product, in this case an over abundance they would have to lower their prices. Look at the big three, they can’t move product at current prices so they must lower them.

If we all took a 50% pay cut prices would drop, generally speaking, around 50% as well. Supply and demand is not controlled by any particular entity but rather the generally population. If the generally population takes a 50% pay cut the market would follow…

 

This is exactly why Minimum wage increases do more harm than good. You see the reverse of the above, prices in general will go up, hurting the majority of the population because wages above minimum do not spike with the same percentage.

I am off topic, my apologies

 

The 'Big Three' are in trouble and it's their fault. The quality of their product does not justify the price they want (need?) to charge. They have been poorly managed for a long time. What they need to do is build what people want (style, quality, performance, etc) at a price they are willing to pay, and they will survive. You have to make what people want, not make what you want people to want.
We have it soooooo good in America. Most of us don't even know it. I drive a 1995 Toyota Camry, and a 2003 F250. I LOVE my F250, but the quality of the Camry is much better. No squeeks, rattles, ZERO mechanical issues in 11 years. I've had pretty good luck with my Ford trucks. I've owned 7 in the past 25 years, but they've all had things go wrong, mostly during the warranty period. I also had a 1989 Honda Accord with 270,000 miles and only had to replace the thermostat twice. I can't say that about my Firebird, or my Camaro, or my Taurus... something was ALWAYS breaking on those cars.
On another note, I toured the NUMI (New United Motor Something) plant in Freemont last fall. This is a joint venture between Toyota and GM. At the time the were building Toyota Corollas, Toyota Tacomas, and Pontiac Vibes on the same assembly line. I thought that was pretty interesting. They were building ALOT more Toyota's than Pontiac's.

 

It is not my intent to create an arguement, so with that in mind....

I concur with some of this idea, but in a local market supply and demand has a much stronger effect. In a global economy there is a base price for manafactured goods. Overseas transportation is cheap by the container, so that is not a concern. If the local market can not support the needed volume of sales, the manafacturer will ship to other markets. Minamizing the local market.

The base price for a big screen T.V was pretty muck the same in South America as it was in Canada. They would just sell less in S America.

I like antiques and antiquities and those also move on the world wide market,
same as made in Chine can openers. Local markets can vary due to tarrifs, local costs of doing business, ethics and how competive the market is.

The market is a vast and complex place if it was that easy to solve, my mutual funds would be doing better and i would retire young.


Eddit to add.

Rereading your post xlt sport. It also accured to me that is an example that if we all took a drop in pay ( It will happen to me in the near future) that the price of goods would come down. Some would come down, but others would change very little. Take China as an example, the workers can afford very little of what they make as it is shipped over seas to richer markets. ( some of it they wonder why we would buy it at all, ).

Think of oil or gold as a product.

regards
Russell

 

With all due respect.................open your eyes. The american worker is not being disrespected. I guess you havn't noticed all the imports on the road?

 

Good post and I agree. I was generally speaking but as you pointed out the economy is not a simple thing to figure out but it does have its basics.

It is the market, this case the global market, because that is never going to go away now, that will dictate what a product will sell for. Everybody in business is there for one main reason which of course is to make a profit.

If the market can not afford their prices, or profit margin, that business will go out of business or make very little profit. In my very basic example of everyone taking a 50% pay cut, even if just here in America, then the price structure would have to change, even for business abroad importing their goods to America.

We have over 250 million consumers here and for businesses here or overseas to not restructure their pricing based off lower wages, if it happen, in America would mean a major loss of revenue on their part if not their very existence.

If we were all making $8.00 an hour then housing prices would reflect that price structure, as well as any other consumer goods and services. The only reason housing and auto prices are what they are is simply because that is what the market, in general, will pay.

If today you could stop every person from paying $30,000 for a Ford truck, or any truck, and not pay more then $20,000 then $20,000 would be the new price base. If it cost Ford more then $20,000 to build that truck they would figure a way to construct one for less then $20,000. Ford would not stop building it because if they did someone else, locally or overseas, would step in and build it.

 

That’s a union myth or misrepresentation. Unions such as the UAW will try to brainwash people into believing if they don’t drive an American made car from one of the big three they are anti-American worker…


What is funny is now and then I see people with union stickers on their cars or trucks that say something about buy only American. I see these cars parked at Wal-Mart and think to myself ”What an complete moron”

Unions, in general, are truly:

”Do as I say, NOT as I do…”

 

Most of the foreign cars on the road are built in America, by Americans.

 

A Jap car built on American soil is still a Jap car in my book.

 

Mine too, but I wouldn't say buying one disrespects the American worker, because he probably built it.

 

I just wouldn't buy a new car, import or domestic. Nobody makes anything good anymore.

 

Your probably right. I just have a hard time buying one and supporting Japan even more.