Buying American Cars. What does it mean?
Well I couldn't care less about what you buy.
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
Originally Posted by shtrdave
Well I couldn't care less about what you buy.
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
shhhhhhhhh they wern't suppose to know that!
Originally Posted by shtrdave
Well I couldn't care less about what you buy.
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
The important thing in this thread is. Did anyone see how nicely written his original post is, there weren't even any spelling issues that jumped out at me like in most of his posts.
I bet someone else posted this in another forum and he figured out how to cut and paste.
What do the rest of you think?
Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
Okay Guys, Imagine if GM, Chrysler, or Ford were to go out of business, imagine how many Americans would lose their jobs, and think of the large hit our economy would take. It would ruin America. In these times there are no reasons not to buy American. Between the big 3 and their respective divisions, anyone can find a product to satisfy their needs/wants. And if quality/reliability is a concern, you need to update your thinking. For instance a 2005 Chevy Impala garners the same overall quality and reliability ratings from JD Power and Associates as a 2005 Toyota Camry, while actually garnering higher ratings in terms of body and interior dependability and mechanical quality, and the Suburban/Tahoe are the most reliable large SUV's. Also, in a recent report by Forbes, the least reliable vehicle was made by a Japanese company, Infiniti.Finally, in a recent graph of consumer's problems per 100 cars, Buick and Cadillac were rated with less problems than Toyota,. So to all of you who haven't looked at an American product with pride, look again!
ok...Price out a suburban or tahoe? Price out a Buick, price out a Cadillac? Don't compare the Town car, It's a over priced Crown Victoria.
A person in the twenty's can not afford, or just not interested in thease products.
Ford and Gm will not survive with only one car/truck that scores above average and thier's no 100%American built car/truck with 100% American parts.
The Impalla SS is a neat looking car and Much nicer than a Tauris or Ford 500.
Originally Posted by rmills
My issue with most American cars (not my F150) is fit and finish. American cars are usually bulky and have a cheap plastic feel to them in comparison with the SAME price point as an import.
Every Japanese car I've owned or been in felt cheap, tinney and lightweight. I haven't been in many upper end vehicles such as Lexus or infinity, but there just repackaged Hondas and Toyotas.
Since my Ford Bronco II back in the mid-80's, I haven't owned a foriegn car. And I don't plan to.
Originally Posted by efexfour
I absolutely disagree with you, respectfully, of course.
Every Japanese car I've owned or been in felt cheap, tinney and lightweight. I haven't been in many upper end vehicles such as Lexus or infinity, but there just repackaged Hondas and Toyotas.
Since my Ford Bronco II back in the mid-80's, I haven't owned a foriegn car. And I don't plan to.
Every Japanese car I've owned or been in felt cheap, tinney and lightweight. I haven't been in many upper end vehicles such as Lexus or infinity, but there just repackaged Hondas and Toyotas.
Since my Ford Bronco II back in the mid-80's, I haven't owned a foriegn car. And I don't plan to.
My experience in driving US cars (low end) is not good. The last car I drove was a Chevy Cavalier and the steering wheel was hallow plastic. For the same money most imports were far better (at the time). The imports, for whatever reason had a more solid feel. Again, just my opinion.
Supporting a local economy seems in my opinion is where i spend my money first. If not happy with or unable to satasfy that first goal i then look at imported products.
It is my observation that imported products generally create the lower paying jobs. Warehousing, shipping and sales reps. Minamal infrastructure jobs required.
Where as locally manafactured products have the same type of jobs but also include the mining and processing of raw materials and manafacturing and design. The manafacture of the facalities and additional infastructure.
When there is a person with minamal income they do not have the extra income to carry or boost the general economy. This also affects the local merchants, and the supporting infrastructure.
The large box retailers in there quest to provide the lower price have cut in to the manafactures profit margins and have had manafactures relocate to China.
So when you loose your higher manafacturing job and become a door greater at one of the box store super outlets, and wonder what happened, jsut rember that it was the collective effort of your fellow peoplr shopping for the best price first.
Just my take of a trend.
It is my observation that imported products generally create the lower paying jobs. Warehousing, shipping and sales reps. Minamal infrastructure jobs required.
Where as locally manafactured products have the same type of jobs but also include the mining and processing of raw materials and manafacturing and design. The manafacture of the facalities and additional infastructure.
When there is a person with minamal income they do not have the extra income to carry or boost the general economy. This also affects the local merchants, and the supporting infrastructure.
The large box retailers in there quest to provide the lower price have cut in to the manafactures profit margins and have had manafactures relocate to China.
So when you loose your higher manafacturing job and become a door greater at one of the box store super outlets, and wonder what happened, jsut rember that it was the collective effort of your fellow peoplr shopping for the best price first.
Just my take of a trend.
Originally Posted by silversvt04
Supporting a local economy seems in my opinion is where i spend my money first. If not happy with or unable to satasfy that first goal i then look at imported products.
It is my observation that imported products generally create the lower paying jobs. Warehousing, shipping and sales reps. Minamal infrastructure jobs required.
Where as locally manafactured products have the same type of jobs but also include the mining and processing of raw materials and manafacturing and design. The manafacture of the facalities and additional infastructure.
When there is a person with minamal income they do not have the extra income to carry or boost the general economy. This also affects the local merchants, and the supporting infrastructure.
The large box retailers in there quest to provide the lower price have cut in to the manafactures profit margins and have had manafactures relocate to China.
So when you loose your higher manafacturing job and become a door greater at one of the box store super outlets, and wonder what happened, jsut rember that it was the collective effort of your fellow peoplr shopping for the best price first.
Just my take of a trend.
It is my observation that imported products generally create the lower paying jobs. Warehousing, shipping and sales reps. Minamal infrastructure jobs required.
Where as locally manafactured products have the same type of jobs but also include the mining and processing of raw materials and manafacturing and design. The manafacture of the facalities and additional infastructure.
When there is a person with minamal income they do not have the extra income to carry or boost the general economy. This also affects the local merchants, and the supporting infrastructure.
The large box retailers in there quest to provide the lower price have cut in to the manafactures profit margins and have had manafactures relocate to China.
So when you loose your higher manafacturing job and become a door greater at one of the box store super outlets, and wonder what happened, jsut rember that it was the collective effort of your fellow peoplr shopping for the best price first.
Just my take of a trend.
Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
Okay Guys, Imagine if GM, Chrysler, or Ford were to go out of business, imagine how many Americans would lose their jobs, and think of the large hit our economy would take. It would ruin America. In these times there are no reasons not to buy American.
I took his starting statement and elaborated on it.
I personally take great pride in drivng american cars. ive got two classic camaros an explorer an my f150. My sister has a brand new benz, and her husband a new lexas. I think both cars feel cheap,and small. My last truck had three hundres thousand miles with no major problems. Whenever I see a forein car i feel like they kinda disrespected the american worker.
Originally Posted by silversvt04
Supporting a local economy seems in my opinion is where i spend my money first.
Montgomery, Alabama?
Originally Posted by Norm
So what would you buy if you lived in Marysville, Ohio? Smyrna, Tennessee?
Montgomery, Alabama?
Montgomery, Alabama?
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The Econ stuff Silver mentioned is accurate, to a point.
However, those import plants ARE manufacturing cars, and many Japanese design studios are being relocated to the US.
Moreover; they may be low paying jobs compared to what a GM, Ford, Chrysler worker in Michighan might make; but I've got to tell you- $20.00 an hour in Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee, will go just as far as $40.00/hour will in Michigan. Those people down south can live very well off of $40,000 a year, if they don't have too much overhead.
The low-paying part is subjective. My wife's cousing lives in the Bay area and she makes more $ than me. But, she is BROKE because the cost of living in California is outrageous. Yet, she doesn't want to move to Texas because she doesn't think she can afford the pay cut. I told her- you're paying $36,000 a year in rent. You can cut that to $12,000 a year in Dallas and live very well; meaning you can theorhetically take a $30,000 pay cut, and break even moving here, and STILL live better than you're living there...
She doesn't see it...
Oh well, more for me> My wife doesn't need MORE family here anyway!



