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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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I think I'll just into the flame wars now. Do most people mod their cars or trucks for use? No. I have about 8" of lift and 35" tires on my 2wd...and hell, its a v6! Did I do it so I can tear up the pits with the big trucks? No. I did it to be different and stick out from the crowd. I have always loved the look of lifted trucks but being from New Orleans, there aren't many places that I would need 4wd anyway. And to the guy who said you can't stick with the 4wd trucks, I guarantee a 2wd with locked rear and enough power and lift will out-mud many 4wd trucks. If I could put 450 hp to the ground with locked 37's, I promise I would make it through more **** than a stock 4x4. Saying it can't be done is ignorant, saying more work must be done to keep up is realistic.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Definatly ALOT more work in a 2wd.

I'll take a 2wd "almost" anywhere. IF I need to get there.
I'll take a 4wd "almost" anywhere. Just for the fun of the path to getting there.

The WORST situation that I have ever gotten myself into on an accident was in this paticualr 2wd truck I have now. I would have been concernd even if it was a 4wd. I had my doubts that anything outside of heavy equipment would beable to do it, and would was convinced that it would be needed to get me out. But the 2wd did it with lots of coaxing. But not as much coaxing as I had anticipated when I realized what I had done.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
A lot of the lifted trucks running Baja are 2WD. They're called pre-runners. You'll not go rock crawling with 'em. You won't go bogging in them. You will, however, be able to haul *** through rough roads and dunes with less parts to worry about breaking or fixing on the way.

but the truck in the pick is by no means set up like a pre runner, the suspension done on it was springs and spindles and blocks in the rear with a 3" body lift, a prerunner it is not, but i get were you are coming from
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by slimshady0479
I think I'll just into the flame wars now. Do most people mod their cars or trucks for use? No. I have about 8" of lift and 35" tires on my 2wd...and hell, its a v6! Did I do it so I can tear up the pits with the big trucks? No. I did it to be different and stick out from the crowd. I have always loved the look of lifted trucks but being from New Orleans, there aren't many places that I would need 4wd anyway. And to the guy who said you can't stick with the 4wd trucks, I guarantee a 2wd with locked rear and enough power and lift will out-mud many 4wd trucks. If I could put 450 hp to the ground with locked 37's, I promise I would make it through more **** than a stock 4x4. Saying it can't be done is ignorant, saying more work must be done to keep up is realistic.

I'm willing to put money down that a locked 2wd with 37's cant make it through as much as a stock 4x4. The locked rear end will give your a little bit better chance but most people dont realize how much more pull you get when you have 4 wheels pulling instead of 2. As long as I can have mud tires I think I can out mud a 2wd anyday.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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5'5" max.

Definite LMS.

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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by The professor
I'm willing to put money down that a locked 2wd with 37's cant make it through as much as a stock 4x4. The locked rear end will give your a little bit better chance but most people dont realize how much more pull you get when you have 4 wheels pulling instead of 2. As long as I can have mud tires I think I can out mud a 2wd anyday.
I think most often it is more about the weight of the engine sitting over the front tires giving them more traction. That's why you will never see a front wheel drive truck. Becasue if they did then 4wd would no longer be a needed option. What if they made a 4wd that was front wheel drive and when you used the 4wd it engaged the rear tires? How often would it be a huige benefit to engage the rear wheels?

Another thing to think about a stock 4wd is ussually only a 2wd anyway. With out a differential lock even engaged in 4wd rarely will you get a stock truck to spin all 4 tires. Even with posi or LS front and rear axels they are far from lockers, your drive wheels are your passenger rear and drivers front. OR... which ever tire has the "least" traction. Lockers are not offered as a factory option. They try to mimic lockers with traction control. Which all that does is if a tire starts spinning it applies the brake to that tire so the power gets sent to the other side. If you happen get mud in the ABS sensor this can allow the system to lock up that tire sending you out of control. Until the system detects the fault and shuts the ABS and Traction Contol down.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtruck311
but the truck in the pick is by no means set up like a pre runner, the suspension done on it was springs and spindles and blocks in the rear with a 3" body lift, a prerunner it is not, but i get were you are coming from

You're right. I just thought the Devil might be in need of an advocate in this thread.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by slimshady0479
I think I'll just into the flame wars now. Do most people mod their cars or trucks for use? No. I have about 8" of lift and 35" tires on my 2wd...and hell, its a v6! Did I do it so I can tear up the pits with the big trucks? No. I did it to be different and stick out from the crowd. I have always loved the look of lifted trucks but being from New Orleans, there aren't many places that I would need 4wd anyway. And to the guy who said you can't stick with the 4wd trucks, I guarantee a 2wd with locked rear and enough power and lift will out-mud many 4wd trucks. If I could put 450 hp to the ground with locked 37's, I promise I would make it through more **** than a stock 4x4. Saying it can't be done is ignorant, saying more work must be done to keep up is realistic.
Do you have any evidence of these unrealistic claims or are you speaking out your butt? :santa:
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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In every thread that argues whether or not a 2WD truck should be lifted or not, I have always replied the same thing, and I will do so again.

My buddy has a '99 Chevy Silverado 2WD with a 6" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35" tires, and a locking rear differential. When we go to Glamis , he is able to go anywhere he wants to, with the exception of super huge hills. In his case, a lifted 2WD has a purpose, and makes sense. For some people, it does. For others it doesn't. It's all subjective, and a matter of opinion. If you don't remember, or if your momma never told you:

If you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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There are many guys here that run 2wd dune buggies thru our mud pits and off road parks. They don't get stuck any more often, probably less often than the 4wd's do. I've never pulled one out and I see them zipping around every where thru the mud. I've pulled many 4wd's out and been pulled out many times in my 4wd's in the same spots.

Let's examine what the actual utilitarian purpose of lifting a truck is.
To get a bigger tire for more ground clearance of the axle and to increase aproach and departure angles of the bumpers.

Why would this not do the same for a 2wd?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
There are many guys here that run 2wd dune buggies thru our mud pits and off road parks. They don't get stuck any more often, probably less often than the 4wd's do. I've never pulled one out and I see them zipping around every where thru the mud. I've pulled many 4wd's out and been pulled out many times in my 4wd's in the same spots.

Let's examine what the actual utilitarian purpose of lifting a truck is.
To get a bigger tire for more ground clearance of the axle and to increase aproach and departure angles of the bumpers.

Why would this not do the same for a 2wd?

There you go ruining a perfectly good pissing contest with facts and common sense. You're no fun.









 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
There are many guys here that run 2wd dune buggies thru our mud pits and off road parks. They don't get stuck any more often, probably less often than the 4wd's do. I've never pulled one out and I see them zipping around every where thru the mud. I've pulled many 4wd's out and been pulled out many times in my 4wd's in the same spots.

Let's examine what the actual utilitarian purpose of lifting a truck is.
To get a bigger tire for more ground clearance of the axle and to increase aproach and departure angles of the bumpers.

Why would this not do the same for a 2wd?
It would do the same but the truck in the picture is clearly not a dune buggie. It is clearly just some fool who think's hes a bada$$ and doesn't use his truck for anything but mall crawling.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanCowboy
It would do the same but the truck in the picture is clearly not a dune buggie. It is clearly just some fool who think's hes a bada$$ and doesn't use his truck for anything but mall crawling.

Clearly.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
Clearly.
Clearly you're no fun either.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanCowboy
It would do the same but the truck in the picture is clearly not a dune buggie. It is clearly just some fool who think's hes a bada$$ and doesn't use his truck for anything but mall crawling.
If that is the case then what is the difference if it's a 2wd or 4wd? A jacked up 4wd wouldn't help him get around the mall parking lot any better than a jacked up 2wd would. I can only remember a handful of times I've ever used 4wd at the mall. Ussually more fun to take it out of 4wd and cut dougnuts in the snow/ice. It would be kind of silly to use the extra gas to turn the extra drive line and have the extra maintanece just to cruise the mall.
Kind of like the guys that buy 4wd truck's or SUV's then just cruise the malls and it never leaves pavement. But they have it if they need it I guess. Might come in handy if your at the mall when that freak big snow storm hits with out any warning out of no where.

Wonder if they have some really big speed bumps at the mall that we haven't found yet. One can only assume with all of these 4wd's running around and they are all spotless.
 
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