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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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The Ruger is like an old farm truck. Reliable, but not hot stuff. The S&W is like a upper end ofthe midline sports cars. Very nice, not clunky etc. My GP141 is me backpack, clanking around the woods gun. The Smiths are the take to the range and shoot a lot guns. Her only specs of what she wanted was .50 cal. Who am I to argue ?


A .480 Ruger SRH slipped down on my list of 'must haves' once the .460 W&W came out. I want the LE hunter version. It's purdy sexy.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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I had a de 44Mag. I had to load my own shells because I couldnt find any with enough powder to advance the next shell. It would always jam on factory loads
i also have the 44 mag barel for my 50 D.E., i found that if it is under a 240 grain round than it will not have the force to eject the round and feed the oncoming round, any round at or above 240 grains feeds just fine in my 44 mag D.E. or you could have a gas timing issue i have read this hapens after a time with the D.E. just something you might try, i also have a question does your D.E. expand the brass at the bottom? mine does so when i go to reload it makes it a pain.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Dude, that's a bad sign when the case head starts to bulge. It's a sign of too high pressure is it not?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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i also have the 44 mag barel for my 50 D.E., i found that if it is under a 240 grain round than it will not have the force to eject the round and feed the oncoming round, any round at or above 240 grains feeds just fine in my 44 mag D.E. or you could have a gas timing issue i have read this hapens after a time with the D.E. just something you might try, i also have a question does your D.E. expand the brass at the bottom? mine does so when i go to reload it makes it a pain.
I never noticed if it was expanding the brass. I had the gun for about 4 months and traded it up for a Glock 36. No problems there. The Glock will shoot anything you can put in it.

The DE is a novelty. Not that its a bad thing.

I think it would be cool to carry 2 gold DE .50s
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Bought my wife a present for getting a new job...A S&W 500 manglem.

Before you get all WTF like lemme explain. She has always wanted a .50 handgun (do not ask me why). Once I explained that the Desert Eagle is a hunk of chit she relented and left me with the specs of '.50 cal' & 'hand gun'. I can work with simple parameters like that. Anyhow she also declared that we were not going to give each other expensive presents for Christmas this year and I'm too impatient to wait until her BD in Jan so I bought it now. Here's a link with pics.

http://www.black-rifles.com/forums/i...pic=5014&st=20
That 50.cal is a lot of handgun. Can you all hit anything with that? Just asking.

I never shot anything over a 44mag, and that was a handful. Now, those 50s are way over top a 44.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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i dont think of my D.E. as a novelty, it took me awile to get acurate with it but i have found it to be suprisingly acurate once you get used to the wieght, it is not a good C and C because of the size but it is good for the range and home protection, no matter were you hit them they are down for the count a 44 mag hollow point will take any man down, just the sound of it loading a round sounds like artilary being loaded, i take it with me when i go camping or hiking in a good leg holster just in case of a bear or drug runners
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Your absolutly right...the Alaskan is a 480 Ruger and the Taurus is 454 Casull. I had a major brain fart.
I agree...for the money you can not beat the reliablilty and quality of a Redhawk (or a Blackhawk for that matter). The S&Ws are nice guns too but with them you are paying for the S&W name. I do love the old S&W rifles though...I have the only 2 high grade S&Ws I have ever seen in person. One in 270 and one in 7mag.
DEs are more or less conversation pieces IMO...they are quality guns but are really not pratical for anything (but thats really part of their attraction!)
Hey Ram, can you guys really hit anything with those big boys??? IMO, the 44mag is killer enough. And you have to be really skilled to shoot those accurately

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cehowardf150
Hey Ram, can you guys really hit anything with those big boys??? IMO, the 44mag is killer enough. And you have to be really skilled to shoot those accurately

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The Ruger Redhawk Alaskan is a snubnose...so its really not that accurate all(to be honest I have only shot it 4 times). It was made to be a CC gun for someone say in Alaska that has the potential to be attacked by a large dangerous animal...like a grizzly. The Taurus on the other hand is very accurate..it has a ported 6.5in barrel and recoil is very moderate on it (where as the Ruger kind of feels like a small bomb going off in your hand!) I also have a Super Redhawk in 44Mag (non-ported) and the Taurus in 454 Casull really compares very close to it recoil wise. I would like to put a scope on the taurus but I have not got around to it yet, but to be honest I really don't shoot it enough to justify it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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i dont think of my D.E. as a novelty, it took me awile to get acurate with it but i have found it to be suprisingly acurate once you get used to the wieght, it is not a good C and C because of the size but it is good for the range and home protection, no matter were you hit them they are down for the count a 44 mag hollow point will take any man down, just the sound of it loading a round sounds like artilary being loaded, i take it with me when i go camping or hiking in a good leg holster just in case of a bear or drug runners

I always did. I use my Glock 36 for home protection. I can crank out 6 .45 ACP rounds pretty flippin fast. I had a hard time doing that with the DE because all the parts have to move so damn far.

If you want to have a hoot of a time, get one of these and put the 45-70 govt barrel on it.



Its a true competitors pistol. I also have a .410 shotgun barrel for it. Cant say its all that handy trying to shoot trap with it but needless to say, I have tried.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rutherk1

If you want to have a hoot of a time, get one of these and put the 45-70 govt barrel on it.



Its a true competitors pistol. I also have a .410 shotgun barrel for it. Cant say its all that handy trying to shoot trap with it but needless to say, I have tried.
I had a guy try to sell me a 223 TC with a heavy barrel and full stock Sat...he wanted $450 for it and it looked brand new. I always wanted one and wish like hell I had bought it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shtrdave
i believe it is magnum research that makes the 47-70 in a single action revolver, with a 10 or 12 inch barrel.

It is an awsome sight.
I don't know about the 47-70 but they do make it in 444 Marlin:

 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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The BFR is chambered in 45-70. To be honest the 45-70 is pretty low pressure compared to the Casull and other screamin' rounds. Heck some of these new pistol rounds are operating a magnum rifle pressures!


I did okay with a .50 AE revolver (Magnum Research) and it was painful since it wasn't ported at all.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RamSS/T
The Ruger Redhawk Alaskan is a snubnose...so its really not that accurate all(to be honest I have only shot it 4 times). It was made to be a CC gun for someone say in Alaska that has the potential to be attacked by a large dangerous animal...like a grizzly. The Taurus on the other hand is very accurate..it has a ported 6.5in barrel and recoil is very moderate on it (where as the Ruger kind of feels like a small bomb going off in your hand!) I also have a Super Redhawk in 44Mag (non-ported) and the Taurus in 454 Casull really compares very close to it recoil wise. I would like to put a scope on the taurus but I have not got around to it yet, but to be honest I really don't shoot it enough to justify it.
Yeah, the 44 mag with hot loads is a handful, and it takes a lot to hit with it at any distance. I have bagged deer with my S&W 29, with my own handloads of 22 grains of 2400, using my on cast bullets(linotype,wheel weights and recovered lead). When I went deer hunting, I had a Remington 788 in 44 mag with a redfield 2x7. But, I always carried my S&W 29, or my Super Blackhawk with me. Caught one close. One shot kill.

I have the old style Model 29, the one where the blue was nice and rich. Same with my Ruger Super Blackhawk. Old style with the new hammer bar.

With the my 29 and Ruger Super Blackhawk, I use to load 200 grain cast wadcutters, with 5 grains of Bulleyes powder, for practice and I could watch them fall in the black at 25 yards. Anyway, that load was good practice for me to keep my eyes on the sights, and pulling straight to the rear. (no flinching)

By the way, I am NRA master with the 1911. I shot pistols in NRA 3 gun competion for many a year. Now, my hearing and eyesight is shot, so I go to the range once every two months, just to smell the gunsmoke and squeeze off a couple.

I use to squirrel hunt with my S&W K22 and Ruger Super Single Six. .Wish I had kept those guns. All this new real heavy stuff is new to me. The best defense weapon is the 1911. Bar none!! The Army had that weapon for 52 years as standard, and hear tell, they are coming back to it. Those 19 shot pistols don't do it in my book..

Anyway, didn't mean to run it..Talking pistols and handloading brings back old memories. Just like now I travel all around to trackdays, I use to travel all around to the pistol matches. These days there is not enough time or money to do all the fun things..And I want to do them all..

Good shooting,

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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I too am a 1911 fan. Love em. Glocks are fine if you like em, but I think they're butt ugly and don't point as well for me as a 1911 does.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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I too am a 1911 fan. Love em. Glocks are fine if you like em, but I think they're butt ugly and don't point as well for me as a 1911 does.
The flat mainspring housing is the one to have.

Here are my two competition weapons. Even though a little old, this 1911 can still shoot 3 inch groups at 50 yds through a machine rest.



I used to shoot a 38 Colt Super modified to shoot 38 wadcutters in the centerfire matches. My 45 scores kept getting better, and better, so I sold the 38.

I had one the first Thompson Center single shot pistol in 357. Man, that was a hurter. I only got it to do a little hunting with it..Kept it for a while and then sold it.

My arsenal consisted of S&W Models 29, 27,19, and the K22. I was crazy about all my S&Ws. The finish and trigger pulls (breaked like glass rods) were outstanding. On the Ruger side,(sloppy trigger pulls) my beloved Super Blackhawk, and matching Super Single Six, with the extra cylinder, were my hearts.

Took my dibs with rifles for a little bit too. Purchased a Weatherby Vanguard in 30-06, topped it with a Redfield 3x9 with Redfield mounts. Off the benchrest with my own loads, that rifle would shoot into 1 7/8 inch 3 shot groups. I had two 1909 Argentine Mausers ,that I also handloaded for. Funny thing, the Argentine Mausers, with open sights, and their sloppy trigger pulls, off the benchrest would outshoot the Weatherby. I sold the Weatherby.

Got me a Remington 788 in 44 mag, since I had about 7 bullet molds for 44 mag, and cost almost nothing to shoot. My buddy had one of the Marlins in 44 Mag. My 788 would outshoot them all day long..

Let me stop, as you all can see I was a gunnut. Back when I use to stand out at the pistol matches, back in the 70s minorities were not too heavy in the shooting sports to say the least. I was an outcast!!

One last story, back around 1969, my wife wanted to visit her mother down in Raleigh, NC. So, I searched the NRA mag for a pistol match in that area. I found one. Sent in my registration and entry fees. When I arrived at the range, mouths dropped... Nothing bad, but they just never expected a black man!! That was one of the best pistol matches I have ever attended. The shooters down there, treated me like a king, I mean like a king.
Doing that time I was rated as "expert" and I won a couple timed and rapid fire matches.
Look, let me stop. I got a zillion shooting stories and a big mouth. (big grin)
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