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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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There's nothing necessarily wrong with shooting slugs through a choked barrel. I've done it with my Benelli before with the improved cylinder choke. Just use something full, like improved cylinder, cylinder, or modified. And never, ever shoot a choked shotgun without the tubes in place, slugs or shot, it'll tear the threads up in the barrel.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Take a look at my edit. It will give you an all around gun for under $300.
Sweet. I wonder if that comes in regular finish. I'm not sure if I'm crazy about the camo anymore.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Sweet. I wonder if that comes in regular finish. I'm not sure if I'm crazy about the camo anymore.
I believe it does from Mossberg, (take a look at the Mossberg site for the combos) question would be does Wally's World carry it.

Edit - Here you go, it is actually a little cheaper.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3163666
 

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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I went looking for a Remington 700VS from Wally World about two or three years ago, they pulled out a catalog that had just about everything else Remington offered except that. So I figure they could order a Mossberg in a non camo finish if they don't have one on hand.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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I am not saying all mossbergs are junk- but the one i have has had some malfunctions- mossberg 835 pump. and i have heard of others having problems with them as well.

If i were u i would buy a remington 870 in the 2 barrel combo- a rifled slug barrel for deer and a smoothbore barrel for bird shooting. I have never had a problem out of my 870 and have never heard from anyone who did with theirs either.

This is if u have to use a shotgun- if u can use a rifle for deer then get a 30-06 or if in wooded area then get a 30-30.

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
I went looking for a Remington 700VS from Wally World about two or three years ago, they pulled out a catalog that had just about everything else Remington offered except that. So I figure they could order a Mossberg in a non camo finish if they don't have one on hand.
Yeah, I am sure for the right price they will get you anything.
As for shooting slugs thru choked, yes you can do it, I have always been told it is not recommended. As for shooting without the choke, I know about those flower petal barrels that can result.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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I've been told that in older shotguns, shooting slugs through smaller than full chokes may cause some scary pressure spikes, but I ain't volunteering to try. As long as it's a pretty full choke, slugs are okay. They make rifled choke tubes to use saboted slugs out of smoothbore barrels, but I've never tried one.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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my Mossberg came with an 18" and a 27" barrel and a pistol grip. I would take the stock off, put the pidtol grip on and the 18" barrel and it was like a little riot gun.

Just go with the Mossberg kit with the 2 barrels. Its a great all around gun for what you want and in the price range. I'm sure you will be happy with it.


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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by farmerD44
I am not saying all mossbergs are junk- but the one i have has had some malfunctions- mossberg 835 pump. and i have heard of others having problems with them as well.

If i were u i would buy a remington 870 in the 2 barrel combo- a rifled slug barrel for deer and a smoothbore barrel for bird shooting. I have never had a problem out of my 870 and have never heard from anyone who did with theirs either.

This is if u have to use a shotgun- if u can use a rifle for deer then get a 30-06 or if in wooded area then get a 30-30.

Dan.
Can't answer about the 835, but I have had the Mossberg 500 and an 870 before. I actually preferred the Mossberg. Nothing wrong with either, just preferred the mossberg.

I agree if all he was going to do is deer hunting, a rifle would be better. However if he decides to go bird hunting, the shotgun will let him do both, and the slug barrel with triple ought buck will make a great home defense weapon.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
There's nothing necessarily wrong with shooting slugs through a choked barrel.
With all do respect I'll have to disagree.
I have done it too but it was to open up a choke for a wider spread pattern.
Patern your gun then shoot 5 slugs throu it and pattern it again. It will be a lot different and alot bigger. A smooth bore barrel is a lot softer metal than a slug barrel and a slug is alot more dense than bb's. It doesnt take very many shot to tear up a smooth bore with slugs. Might as well be running a file throu it.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
I've been told that in older shotguns, shooting slugs through smaller than full chokes may cause some scary pressure spikes, but I ain't volunteering to try. As long as it's a pretty full choke, slugs are okay. They make rifled choke tubes to use saboted slugs out of smoothbore barrels, but I've never tried one.
I used to have the smoothbore slug barrel. Had no problem with the saboted slugs. They were fairly accurate. Only shot them to 50yds, but had no problem with accuracy.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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I liked the action release location and the tang safety of the Mossbergs over the Remington. The 870 feels like a much more solid gun than the 500 does though, the 870 receiver is steel, it's aluminum on a 500 I believe.

Rifled slug barrels play hell on buckshot patterns though, they look like big donuts on a patterning board instead of a tight cluster.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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With all do respect I'll have to disagree.
I have done it too but it was to open up a choke for a wider spread pattern.
Patern your gun then shoot 5 slugs throu it and pattern it again. It will be a lot different and alot bigger. A smooth bore barrel is a lot softer metal than a slug barrel and a slug is alot more dense than bb's. It doesnt take very many shot to tear up a smooth bore with slugs. Might as well be running a file throu it.
If you shot a slug through a choke to try to waller it out, then yes, I agree that shooting a slug through a small choke is a bad idea. I don't really see how that could happen, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the lead on the slug will give up long before the internal diameter of the choke. This is why they make chokes in different constrictions for what you want to do. Briley will make 'em in any size you want, I believe. Besides, the slug is lead, I don't see any choke or shotgun barrel, rifled or not, being softer than lead except at the fine threads for the choke (if fired unchoked).

With a modified, improved cylinder or cylinder bore choke in a modern shotgun, rifled slugs are just fine. Sorry, I'm inclined to trust the folks who've been making shotgun slugs since 1898...

http://www.brennekeusa.com/web/text/faq.html
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Here's what Mossberg says.

"Can I shoot slugs or buckshot through a "smoothbore" field barrel with Accu-choke tubes? (500/9200/88/695 models) Yes, and with Sabots or rifled slugs, the more 'open' the choke tube, the better the accuracy ("Improved Cylinder" recommended). The "Full" or "Modified" choke tubes are preferred for buckshot loads. Slugs, buckshot and steel shot loads are not recommended for use with an Extra Full "Turkey tube" installed, due to the tube's tight constriction. Do not fire any load without a choke tube installed, doing so will damage the internal choke tube threads. "

That being said, I would still prefer to have the seperate barrel, if for no other reason the sights that are going to be on it compared to the regular choked tube.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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yeah, i like the safety and slide release lever locations better on the mossbergs as well- but i think the remingtons are alot better made- and fit me a little better as well. and u can get a remington combo for a little less than $300 as well i think.

If he is in a rifle zone and plans to keep hunting deer into the future- then i would suggest he get a rifle. u can get cheap 30-06 rifle/scope combo's from walmart and other places for $400 or less. much better gun for deer. And since he didnt spare any expense when selecting a truck- he should do no less in his choice of weaponry

And a shotgun can be purchased for around $200. or less than $100 for a single shot.

Dan.
 
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