Home Defense?
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The 410 pump shotgun is an excelent firearm for home defense.
I have fired many and they are perfect for a female begining shooter. It will not be like firing a 12 gauge.
Please do not let her try one of the cute little mouse guns or worse the 410 derringer. I have, and carry one as a backup and they are not very comfortable to shoot after a few shots. Plus the 2 foot flame out of them is blinding.
I have fired many and they are perfect for a female begining shooter. It will not be like firing a 12 gauge.
Please do not let her try one of the cute little mouse guns or worse the 410 derringer. I have, and carry one as a backup and they are not very comfortable to shoot after a few shots. Plus the 2 foot flame out of them is blinding.
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From: Lost some where in the middle of the Ozark Mountains!
Originally Posted by olefafl
Thank you all for the replies.
I do have some "things" that can remove arms, legs, heads. With the age of one of them, it may have been used for just that.
A dog is a great idea, but we live in a small house. We also don't have a fenced in yard, so he/she would need to stay inside most of the time. Our child would give it more love that it could handle. My Mom and Dad have a part Great Dane part Horse. He is about 80lbs and still growing. Our child loves to give him hugs and kisses.
I am thinking about a 410 pump shotgun. Small, lite weight, and easy to handle. She will not like this idea.
We live in town, in a decent neighborhood - no bars on the windows, mostly senior neighbors. Some young punks like to park and block our drive, but all we have to do is go in from the side.
What we've been discussing is when things fall apart - natural disasters, riots, revolution, etc. - so a home security system(we'd never rely on someone else for protection), and maybe even a dog that we wouldn't abandon, might not be practical if you're heading for the hills.
I do have some "things" that can remove arms, legs, heads. With the age of one of them, it may have been used for just that.
A dog is a great idea, but we live in a small house. We also don't have a fenced in yard, so he/she would need to stay inside most of the time. Our child would give it more love that it could handle. My Mom and Dad have a part Great Dane part Horse. He is about 80lbs and still growing. Our child loves to give him hugs and kisses.
I am thinking about a 410 pump shotgun. Small, lite weight, and easy to handle. She will not like this idea.
We live in town, in a decent neighborhood - no bars on the windows, mostly senior neighbors. Some young punks like to park and block our drive, but all we have to do is go in from the side.
What we've been discussing is when things fall apart - natural disasters, riots, revolution, etc. - so a home security system(we'd never rely on someone else for protection), and maybe even a dog that we wouldn't abandon, might not be practical if you're heading for the hills.
Now this is a totally diffferent story...
A .410 will be alright for close quarters. IE Home defense. But out in the open if your heading for the hills.. You'll want something with a little more distance on it too. Probably need some percision as well so maybe a .410/.22 combo. It'll also serve as a great small game hunting gun so you wouldn't starve to death in the hills. In the riot scenario you would want something with a little more ammo capacity as well as immediate incapitation.
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From: Indy
Originally Posted by olefafl
I am thinking about a 410 pump shotgun. Small, lite weight, and easy to handle. She will not like this idea.
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I was just at my local Walmart and looked at what they had. They have a pump 410, but that thing is long. They had a 20G that was shorter.
I looked on line at the lever 410s they look nice.
BTW: when we said " head for the hills" don't think thats what we at doing.
I looked on line at the lever 410s they look nice.
BTW: when we said " head for the hills" don't think thats what we at doing.
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From: Nawlins
Originally Posted by SuperCab V8
im wanting to purchase a weapon myself.... either a shotgun or handgun, Can anyone tell me what all is involved with purchasing a weapon like this? i found a shotgun i like. Can anyone tell me about it... Link is Here Stock #50668 and Stock #50665
Check your local laws about the purchase. Shotguns you can usually just walk in and purchase it but some ares require a license/permit (or something similar) to purchase a handgun. The store will be able to tell you everything you need to know about a purchase like that though.
If you do a mail order online, then you need to find a local FFL that the item can be shipped to.
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From: Nawlins
Originally Posted by olefafl
I was just at my local Walmart and looked at what they had. They have a pump 410, but that thing is long. They had a 20G that was shorter.
I looked on line at the lever 410s they look nice.
BTW: when we said " head for the hills" don't think thats what we at doing.
I looked on line at the lever 410s they look nice.
BTW: when we said " head for the hills" don't think thats what we at doing.
I'd consider letting her shoot and practice with birdshot, but then getting some heavier loads for when the gun is in the house... Also, shotguns don't have a huge spread at the range they're used in self-defense. You'll still have to learn to aim. You can always get the barrel cut down by a gunsmith to the shortest, legal length. I believe it's 18" for a shotgun.
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From: Fort Worth Tx
Originally Posted by RockyJSquirrel
What method would be most effective for your wife to use when you aren't home? I cannot think of anything as safe, accurate and effective as a handgun in the hands of someone competent to use it. If she won't touch the gun, then let her choose her own preferred method and back her up 100%.
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From: Lost some where in the middle of the Ozark Mountains!
Originally Posted by SuperCab V8
im wanting to purchase a weapon myself.... either a shotgun or handgun, Can anyone tell me what all is involved with purchasing a weapon like this? i found a shotgun i like. Can anyone tell me about it... Link is Here Stock #50668 and Stock #50665
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From: south western NYS Latitude: 42.34 N, Longitude: 78.46 W
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
The Mossberg 500 series is a GREAT action. I love my Mossberg 500A 12ga pump. The action is inmistakeably smotth and reliable. Plus it seems as though I can't miss with it. I rarely have to fire a second shot at clays or game birds either one. Go here and you can build one heck of a mean tactical/riot gun from the Mosberg 500... Cheaper Than Dirt catalog. My second choice for Shotguns would be the Remington 1100 12 ga pump, you can also build a decent tactical gun from them too.
Remington is always a 1st choice here in NY, mossberg rates mighty low in the quality department... can you say 1187 semi
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From: Lost some where in the middle of the Ozark Mountains!
I love both the Mossberg 500A and my Rem 1100. But the Mosberg is the gun I ussually grab first. I like the way it slides into my shoulder and it just feels right. The Remington feels alright too but not like the Mosberg. I throw it up then have to position it, where the Mosberg seems to just fall into place for me. Had them both for 12 + years and neither one has had any functional work done to them for mechanical problems nor has either one ever mis fired except for an occasional dud primer. But you could always see where the pin hit it and it just didnt go off. The Reminton is more picky about it's shells though too. It dosen't like federal shotgun cases for some reason. 1 out of 20 will jamb, I don't think they have a thick enough of a lip for the extaractor to grap a hold of or something. Any other caseing so far it pulls out and ejects just fine. So I just make sure to seperate my federal cases and not shoot them in it.
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Try both to see what you like. Bewtween the 3 Mossy's we had out shooting clays one day two failed to feed for 3 of us. One was brand new out of the box so it's not like one was buggered up or one of us short stroked it. Two. I don't remember what the other one did. Personally I'm a Remington fan and LOVE my 11-87 Premier 20ga, if I had to have a 'low' end pump it would probably be an 870 Express in one of it various dresses. JMO. Try what you like and buy what works for you!
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From: Georgia on my mind...
Originally Posted by SuperCab V8
im wanting to purchase a weapon myself.... either a shotgun or handgun, Can anyone tell me what all is involved with purchasing a weapon like this? i found a shotgun i like. Can anyone tell me about it... Link is Here Stock #50668 and Stock #50665
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You can also pick up one of these bad bys pretty cheap:
It's a 12 gauge shotgun that is based on the AK-47 receiver. It also comes in 20 gauge and .410. A lot can be done to these semi-autos to customize and reduce recoil.
I started to get one, but instead I got a Remington 870 Express 12 gauge, black synthetic, w/ 26" barrel that has changeable chokes. I considered the Mossberg, but the Remington fit me better, and the slide doesn't chatter like the Mossberg.
It's a 12 gauge shotgun that is based on the AK-47 receiver. It also comes in 20 gauge and .410. A lot can be done to these semi-autos to customize and reduce recoil.
I started to get one, but instead I got a Remington 870 Express 12 gauge, black synthetic, w/ 26" barrel that has changeable chokes. I considered the Mossberg, but the Remington fit me better, and the slide doesn't chatter like the Mossberg.
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Originally Posted by olefafl
I am thinking about a 410 pump shotgun. Small, lite weight, and easy to handle.