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From: Michigan
Originally Posted by RamSS/T
I disagree...those people aren't humans. They are animals. Maybe they wont get out and will stay there looting....then in a few more days when all the food and water is gone they can eat try to eat the TVs and Nikes they stole.
LMAO thats great, The NG should make that their punishment! 
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From: DETROIT, (formerly Eaton County, Michigan)
i don't have a problem with people breaking in and stealing food, water, medical supplies, things for survival.
but I draw the line there.
If I were trapped in New Orleans, I'd be securing food and water, somehow.
but I draw the line there.
If I were trapped in New Orleans, I'd be securing food and water, somehow.
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From: orlando, fl
I was just watching CNN.. the cops and the military were letting people get food and **** out of the stores
I don't have respect for the people that steal unnecessary things.. i wonder what other countries are thinking?
I don't have respect for the people that steal unnecessary things.. i wonder what other countries are thinking?
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From: Near Cincinnati, OH
Originally Posted by countrygirl5.4
i wonder what other countries are thinking?
All this lawlessness got me thinking. I thought I had remembered New Orleans getting a certain distinction no city wants....'The Murder Capital of America'. They won this award in 1994. That's pretty bad, given that Chicago has had that distinction quite a bit and Chicago's population is nearly 3 million and New Orleans is only 500,000 or so (from what I read - 2000 census). I imagine much of the criminal element that helped them gain that distinction is still there today and rode out the hurricane. And now they run the streets. It's a shame because people that really need help aren't getting it when the cops have to fight looters instead of rescue people. Think about a large city like that...downtown, large office buildings, backs, etc...all ungaurded and ready to be raped by theives. It's really amazing and unbelievable that people would take such advantage of a situation like this. I mean, there really could be thousands dead when it's all over. They say people went into the attics to get away from the flood. If the water doesn't lower, how can they get out if they can't break through the roof? I bet there are people dying in situations like this as we speak
Court TV story about New Orleans: http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangster...2.html?sect=18
Aug 2005 story about crime/murder rate on the rise again there:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in786780.shtml
A story about the lack of and problems with police:
http://www.bestofneworleans.com/disp...news_feat.html
So I guess I'm not at all surprised about the looting. Still a shame. You'd think people would try to help each other in a time like this. I guess not. This whole ordeal just puts a big stain on the whole city. What a mess. I feel sorry for the people that really need help and can't get it.
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From: Fort Worth,Tx
Originally Posted by cia-agent
Yeah; that was some bull***** right there...
They should just drop a 30 Kw diesel generator in that water (power running) and handle all of that...
I wonder what the kill radius would be....
They should just drop a 30 Kw diesel generator in that water (power running) and handle all of that...
I wonder what the kill radius would be....
why not just a strategic nuclear strike?
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From: Georgia on my mind...
I was listening on the radio this morning, about a WalMart that got looted; all the firearms are gone. A news crew was riding around in a boat with a blue police light on it, when they pulled up to a U-Haul van with a couple dudes in it waving weapons around saying "Eff the police!" As they rode by, they said they got shot at. Now, I'm not a fan of the mass media, but that's getting a little carried away.
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Here's another interesting story. Now they're shooting at the helicopters evacuating people from the SuperDome...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/
NEW ORLEANS - National Guard troops in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans on Thursday to curb the growing lawlessness that included shots fired at a helicopter airlifting people out of the Superdome and carjackings of buses helping with evacuations.
The operation to bus more than 20,000 people to the Houston Astrodome was suspended “until they gain control of the Superdome,” said Richard Zeuschlag, head of Acadian Ambulance, which was handling the evacuation of sick and injured people from the Superdome.
He said that military would not fly out of the Superdome either because of the gunfire and that the National Guard told him that it was sending 100 military police officers to gain control.
“That’s not enough,” Zeuschlag. “We need a thousand.”
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What the hell is wrong with these people!?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/
NEW ORLEANS - National Guard troops in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans on Thursday to curb the growing lawlessness that included shots fired at a helicopter airlifting people out of the Superdome and carjackings of buses helping with evacuations.
The operation to bus more than 20,000 people to the Houston Astrodome was suspended “until they gain control of the Superdome,” said Richard Zeuschlag, head of Acadian Ambulance, which was handling the evacuation of sick and injured people from the Superdome.
He said that military would not fly out of the Superdome either because of the gunfire and that the National Guard told him that it was sending 100 military police officers to gain control.
“That’s not enough,” Zeuschlag. “We need a thousand.”
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What the hell is wrong with these people!?
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From: Mount Airy,MD
Originally Posted by l-menace
i don't have a problem with people breaking in and stealing food, water, medical supplies, things for survival.
but I draw the line there.
If I were trapped in New Orleans, I'd be securing food and water, somehow.
but I draw the line there.
If I were trapped in New Orleans, I'd be securing food and water, somehow.
As far as looters and others shooting at police and helicopters, all they really need is to put door gunners in place like they would have in Iraq.
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This was posted on the Corvette forums originally, then posted on another board I frequent, so take it with a grain of salt.
Originally Posted by Corvette Forums
Well last night I was watching the 6pm news when they announced the 17th street canal pumps failed as well as another break in the levee. My house is right off St. Charles Ave. and up to 6pm yesterday is was the only part of the city that was dry. Since the pumps failed and the new break St. Charles Ave. would be under 9ft of water in the next 12-15hrs. My brother and I felt if we wanted to save anything we had to leave NOW. We loaded up flashlights, rope, our medical ID's, both our .45 Glocks, 2 shotguns and rode out. En-route we listened to the radio which broad casted all the news about the looters and what not, in hindsight it was a mistake. My mother didn't want us to go by dad who is a Vietnam vet told to be safe and "shoot to kill" if it ever comes to that.
One the way we had to pass 5-6 checkpoints to allow entry into the city. We stated we were medical personnel who were activated, showed our ID and off we went. On the radio reports were coming in about the officer who was shot in the head, the 2 gunman who opened fired on the NOPD station, and how looters were carjacking cars to get out of the city. This started making my brother nervous and giving seconds thoughts.
Anyway we get to the city and it looks like a freaking war zone. The best visual I can give is the movie "Blackhawk Down" when all the Somalians are rushing the city. They are people EVERYWHERE, they are pissed off, and all have weapons, 2X4's, Axes, and guns. If this wasn't bad enough we are 2 white boys in a truck in a sea several hundred armed pissed off blacks. There wasn't a white person to be found. I couldn't get over the little 8-10yr old kids with weapons, I ever saw one carry a claw hammer!
These people were absolutely nuts. They rammed trucks (stolen I'm sure) into jewelry stores, stealing items; they were tearing apart Wal-Mart carrying out TV's, Playstations, DVD players, etc. One lady was wheeling out an entire rack of merchandise, not sure what it was but sure wasn't clothes for food. They were all laughing and carrying on like it's freaking Christmas.
We got stuck in traffic when we see the group of guys walking down the street w/ AK-47's, at that point the "pucker factor" kicked in, a couple Glocks and shotguns were no match for that. We haul azz trying to get to Uptown when we see these people chopping down the front door w/ an axe of this $4-5 million dollar mansion on ST. Charles Ave. I was just in total awe because it was so surreal. Making matters worse it's 11pm at night there is no electricity and you really can see anything or anyone until they are right up on you.
Our plan was to be in and out in 30min, this included putting his Harley on the trailer. It would have taken me 5-10min tops to get my stuff, all I wanted was my pictures from college, my clothes/shoes, and my computer tower. Well he got scared saying we are going to get jumped while putting the bike on the trailer. Keep in mind this is the only area in the city that is dry. So just like rats who move to higher ground these people were doing the same. Word must have gotten out that Uptown was dry so there started to be a large influx of people.
Needless to say he wanted to go home rather than take our chances. While it was the smart thing to do I was beyond infuriated w/ him because we made it this far. He just kept saying our lives aren't worth it. So we turned around, our next challenge was getting out of the city while not getting jacked. Reports came out that people were jumping in the back of truck holding the drivers at gunpoint. Traffic started to slow so I just nailed it got out as fast as I could.
Even though he was the voice of reason I'm still pissed. All I have is my life and the clothes on my back. I lost my house(which is now 9ft underwater) ALL my clothes, TV, computer, furniture, and photo albums and videos from childhood and college. What makes this worse is my brother owned the house and I was a tenant and I didn't have renters insurance, hindsight is 20/20.
I also hope everyone of the F*(king looters get Tetanus, E-Coli and F*(KING drown. I'm serious I really hope the all die for what they were doing to the city, killing people, and destroying homes. Never in my life have I ever seen people act live savages, it was truly sickening.
One the way we had to pass 5-6 checkpoints to allow entry into the city. We stated we were medical personnel who were activated, showed our ID and off we went. On the radio reports were coming in about the officer who was shot in the head, the 2 gunman who opened fired on the NOPD station, and how looters were carjacking cars to get out of the city. This started making my brother nervous and giving seconds thoughts.
Anyway we get to the city and it looks like a freaking war zone. The best visual I can give is the movie "Blackhawk Down" when all the Somalians are rushing the city. They are people EVERYWHERE, they are pissed off, and all have weapons, 2X4's, Axes, and guns. If this wasn't bad enough we are 2 white boys in a truck in a sea several hundred armed pissed off blacks. There wasn't a white person to be found. I couldn't get over the little 8-10yr old kids with weapons, I ever saw one carry a claw hammer!
These people were absolutely nuts. They rammed trucks (stolen I'm sure) into jewelry stores, stealing items; they were tearing apart Wal-Mart carrying out TV's, Playstations, DVD players, etc. One lady was wheeling out an entire rack of merchandise, not sure what it was but sure wasn't clothes for food. They were all laughing and carrying on like it's freaking Christmas.
We got stuck in traffic when we see the group of guys walking down the street w/ AK-47's, at that point the "pucker factor" kicked in, a couple Glocks and shotguns were no match for that. We haul azz trying to get to Uptown when we see these people chopping down the front door w/ an axe of this $4-5 million dollar mansion on ST. Charles Ave. I was just in total awe because it was so surreal. Making matters worse it's 11pm at night there is no electricity and you really can see anything or anyone until they are right up on you.
Our plan was to be in and out in 30min, this included putting his Harley on the trailer. It would have taken me 5-10min tops to get my stuff, all I wanted was my pictures from college, my clothes/shoes, and my computer tower. Well he got scared saying we are going to get jumped while putting the bike on the trailer. Keep in mind this is the only area in the city that is dry. So just like rats who move to higher ground these people were doing the same. Word must have gotten out that Uptown was dry so there started to be a large influx of people.
Needless to say he wanted to go home rather than take our chances. While it was the smart thing to do I was beyond infuriated w/ him because we made it this far. He just kept saying our lives aren't worth it. So we turned around, our next challenge was getting out of the city while not getting jacked. Reports came out that people were jumping in the back of truck holding the drivers at gunpoint. Traffic started to slow so I just nailed it got out as fast as I could.
Even though he was the voice of reason I'm still pissed. All I have is my life and the clothes on my back. I lost my house(which is now 9ft underwater) ALL my clothes, TV, computer, furniture, and photo albums and videos from childhood and college. What makes this worse is my brother owned the house and I was a tenant and I didn't have renters insurance, hindsight is 20/20.
I also hope everyone of the F*(king looters get Tetanus, E-Coli and F*(KING drown. I'm serious I really hope the all die for what they were doing to the city, killing people, and destroying homes. Never in my life have I ever seen people act live savages, it was truly sickening.
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While the police and National Guard may be restricted on who and when they can shoot someone it’s always great if people like me could make our way down their to take care of the problem.
I would truly love to load up, pack up my shotgun and 1,000lbs of ammunition and just start taking out the animals in that city.
I am sorry but there is something truly wrong, very wrong with this country when law enforcement and/or military personally can not shot and KILL the animals in that city. It is not in any way human for another human to kill, rape, and steal from others personal property.
We have become to politically correct, to much liberal socialism in this country that allows this kind of behavior. If we get to much more liberal in this country we will end up being a third world country…
Right now, with this crap happening in the affected areas I am really ashamed to call myself an American. Here in what is “suppose” to be the greatest country in the world we have proven we are no better then Afghanistan, Syria, or any other backwards cave infested country…
It’s time for Americans to start acting like Americans and killing off this scum that has infested us…
I would truly love to load up, pack up my shotgun and 1,000lbs of ammunition and just start taking out the animals in that city.
I am sorry but there is something truly wrong, very wrong with this country when law enforcement and/or military personally can not shot and KILL the animals in that city. It is not in any way human for another human to kill, rape, and steal from others personal property.
We have become to politically correct, to much liberal socialism in this country that allows this kind of behavior. If we get to much more liberal in this country we will end up being a third world country…
Right now, with this crap happening in the affected areas I am really ashamed to call myself an American. Here in what is “suppose” to be the greatest country in the world we have proven we are no better then Afghanistan, Syria, or any other backwards cave infested country…
It’s time for Americans to start acting like Americans and killing off this scum that has infested us…